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    Hi all, I am trying to identify pilots of the above mentioned unit, I suppose both instructors + pupils from one navigator Log Book.
    I tried my best searching The London Gazette but as there are only ranks and surnames in some cases I think there are only long shots.
    I will be very thankful if any members could help me to confirm or discard my tips. Any additional information about these pilots except the LG (which I laready have) much appreciated:

    F/Lt Lamb
    1489920 Peter Severn LAMB (152026)

    F/Lt Colman
    ? no luck yet

    F/Lt Keltie
    Douglas Dawson KELTIE (159053)

    F/O Barratt
    Keith James BARRATT (201254)
    Stanley Gilbert BARRATT (194356)

    F/Lt Appleton
    John Handley APPLETON (53931)

    S/Ldr Daw
    Francis George DAW, D.F.C. (41782)

    F/Lt Hoad
    Norman Edward HOAD, A.F.C. (143275)

    F/Lt Davies very common surname
    Leslie Victor DAVIES, D.F.M. (46306)
    S. DAVIES, D.F.C. (144755)
    James Clifford Wallace DAVIES (55027)
    Reginald Albert DAVIES (164300)
    Maurice Peter DAVIES (119872)
    ...

    F/Lt Winstanley
    Alan Barker Lloyd WINSTANLEY (170661)

    W/Cdr Osborn
    Freeman Marshal OSBORN (44734)

    F/O Henderson very common surname
    George Edward HENDERSON(130455)
    Edmund Courtney HENDERSON (58393)
    Alexander Thomson HENDERSON (201399)
    George HENDERSON(59066)
    A.T.HENDERSON (201399)
    ...

    P/O Iddison
    578462 Ian Richard IDDISON (578462)

    F/Lt Boards
    Douglas Alaric BOARDS, D.F.M. (156327)

    Any help much appreciated

    Pavel
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    Hi Pavel

    I can't be certain but N E Hoad was an instructor somewhere in the early post-war period and later commanded No 216 Sqn, RAF Lyneham, RAF Abingdon and was AOC, No 46 Group so he spent a lot of time in Transport Command so would have spent some time at 241 OCU.

    He later became a well known aviation artist, retiring from the RAF as an AVM

    Malcolm

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    Pavel,
    There are about 15(!!) Colmans in the GD Branch around this time (I noted their Service Numbers if anyone wants them!). It should, by processes of elimination, be possible to reduce the 15 to 4, or 5, "possibles". Anybody who undertakes this task - and comes up with an answer - should be awarded the Pavel Vancata Prize for sheer dogged determination!!!
    HTH
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    Many thanks Malcolm, looks like him

    Pavel
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    Hi Pete,

    well sometimes I am giving myself some "missions impossible" I know:)
    If you can send me the Service Numbers for Colman I will be thankful.

    Pavel
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    Pavel, Hi,

    Your wish is my command! I have put them as UNCLAS on the circuit just in case somebody may have one of the numbers in their database(s).

    1 46816
    2 50163
    3 57391
    4 122936
    5 128328
    6 138328
    7 147482
    8 149885
    9 162393
    10 163719
    11 164672
    12 173638
    13 174990
    14 180067
    15 181525

    I now declare the Hunt for the 241 OCU Colman to be open!!
    HTH
    Peter Davies
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    Peter - your guess with 5 candidates was really exact:)
    After browsing the LG I came to the following preliminary conclusion:

    1 46816 - no info about postwar period - NO
    2 50163 - Technical Branch - NO
    3 57391 - GD, 1946 F/O, 1952 F/O for 5 yrs - NO
    4 122936 - 1944 F/O, no info about postwar period - NO
    5 128328 = 138328 = typo, the same one, 1954 F/O Training Branch - candidante No.1
    7 147482 - no info about postwar period - NO
    8 149885 - no info about postwar period - NO
    9 162393 - 1946 F/Lt but no info about postwar period - NO
    10 163719 - 1952 F/Lt service extened - candidante No. 2
    11 164672 - 1946 F/Lt, 1958 F/Lt - candidante No. 3
    12 173638 - no info about postwar period - NO
    13 174990 - 1944 F/O, 1954 F/Lt - possible candidante No. 4
    14 180067 - 1946 F/O, 1950 F/Lt service extended - candidante No. 5
    15 181525 - no info about postwar period - NO

    Pavel
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    Pavel, Hi,
    The rain/wind in UK at the moment (more like Falkland!!) is playing hell with my Phone/ISP provider's landline cables (yet again!). We will - fear not - eventually catch this elusive Colman. Hot stuff (be aware, though, that the name Colman, in UK, is associated with a particularly pungent semi-liquid mustard substance sold in small glass jars. Only needs a small dollop on your meal to take roof-off-mouth, or top-of-head!! I grew up where they grew stacks of it!!).
    HTH
    Peter Davies
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    Hi all,

    I have returned back to my search for pilots., particualrly for Colman.
    I got an additional data, that it was "Flight Lieutenant R. Colman, robust chap, tall with dark hair. Durng WWII he served a glider pilot."
    Not much but at least something...
    I checked once more Peter's list and seems to me that candidante No. 5 now turned to candidate No.1:

    1804835 Raymond Frederick COLMAN (180067)

    Would be anyone able to help me with more details about this man to see if he will fit into the story?

    TIA

    Pavel
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    I can help with your search regarding Ray Colman..........he was my father
    What are you looking for exactly ?

    Richard

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