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    Default 412 Sqn: Plt Off A. T. A. Young RCAF shot down 24 March 1942, POW

    Can anyone provide me the first name of Plt Off A. T. A. Young RCAF of 412 Squadron who was shot down on Ramrod 116B on 24 March 1942, please?

    Extra brownie points for anyone who can provide the serial of his Spit Vb, too, please, but judging by posts and information elsewhere, this may not be available at all. One can but ask!

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    Hi Steve

    Arthur Thomas Aycliffe Young J5339 . From Note's i have but Unconfirmed Try Spitfire BL245 This A/c Borrowed from 411 Sqd also at Digby PLEASE note Unconfirmed . ATA Young came from 58 OTU Course 9. 4/7/41-25/8/41.

    Hope this Helps Phill Jones

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    Brilliant, thanks Phill

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    My notes have Sgt. Taylor in AB183 when it was shot down in Circus 116, but the on-line Spitfire production list shows this aircraft scrapped in 1949. BL245 was intially a 411 Squadron aircraft, but was with 412 Squadron by 15 March 1942. I have no info on it past that date. For now, I will tentatively agree with Phil, and hope somebody has better info!

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    G'day Chaps

    Here are the squadron losses (and damaged) for the 24th of March, 1942 while carrying out a Circus to the railway marshaling yards at Abbeville, France. They all were engaged by aircraft from JG26

    W3215, DB*C was shot down.

    AB183 was damaged. It was repaired. Sgt. Taylor received leg wounds while flying this aircraft. It was repaired and continued to fly afterwards with No.'s 303, 305, 501 and 243 Squadrons

    AB268, DB*B was shot down.

    AB281, DB*F was shot down.

    BL471 was shot down.

    Cheers...Chris
    Last edited by Dakota; 26th January 2014 at 15:52.

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    Thanks Chris.

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    Thanks Bill, thanks Chris

    Just to clarify (and no offence intended, Chris), there were two linked Circuses today, 116A and 116B.

    116A went to Comines Power Station and involved the Hornchurch Wing (64, 411 & 313 Sqns), the North Weald Wing (121, 222 & 403 Sqns) and the Kenley Wing (485 & 602 Sqns)

    116B went to Abbeville Marshalling Yards and involved the Biggin Hill Wing (72, 124 & 401 Sqns), the Tangmere Wing (41 & 129 Sqns) and three 12 Group Sqns - 19 (Ludham), 412 (Wellingore) and 609 (Digby).

    I believe the serials quoted by Chris (W3215, AB183, AB268 & AB281) are all 411 Sqn Spits, and were therefore on the Comines op, rather than the Abbeville op. BL471 was, I believe, the Spit flown by Sqn Ldr John Morrison (KIA) of 412 Sqn and therefore on the Abbeville operation.

    The latter op also lost Sgt William Mills (AD551) and Sgt Bohumil Netopil (AD307), and besides Morrison (above), the only loss that appears unclarified is the serial of 412 Sqn's Plt Off Arthur Young, which Phill suggests may have been BL245.

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    G'day Steve

    Both the squadron ORB's and Frank's R.A.F. Fighter Command Losses say Abbeville.
    BUT on the other hand, the squadron history book says they were sent out to escort bombers to Commines, France. There is a short informative narrative of that day. I can transcribe it if you would like.

    Cheers...Chris
    Last edited by Dakota; 27th January 2014 at 21:11. Reason: spelling error

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    Hey Chris

    Thanks for that. No need to transcribe it, but thanks for the offer. I have the reports from the 11 Group ORB Appendix for both Circuses if you would like copies by e-mail?

    Cheers
    Steve
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