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    Dear All,

    Does anyone know what 5480 GSMU was doing in Apr 1945 in the ETO? It is probably connected with Comms and/or Radar (Ian The Radar does not know!).
    Any help gratefully received!
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    Peter Davies
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    Hi Peter, I have on my list only:

    GSU Group Support Unit

    So I would guess your might be Group Support Mobile Unit?

    Pavel
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    Hi Peter

    Could it be 5480 G MSU, which would be 5480 Type G Mobile Signals Unit?

    Malcolm

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    Tks both! Malcolm's Mobile Signals Unit is currently leading by a short head if I had to bet any of your money on it!! Tks yr help!
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    Hi Peter

    I've just checked the Jan 1945 SD161,

    There were the following Type G MSUs -

    511, 512, 513, 514, 515, 516, 519 and 520 in 83 Group
    517, 518, 5109, 5110, 5111, 5112, 5113, and 5114 in 84 Group
    5213, 5280, 5281, 5282, 5283, 5284, 5285, 5286, 5287, 5304, 5305, and 5306 in No 85 Group

    5480 may have been formed after this?

    Malcolm

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    And on the question of medals! If an Officer is authorised to wear the ribbon of the 1939-43 Star, does that mean that he was, at some stage, in an Operational Theatre up until end 1943, but did not go into an Operational Theatre subsequently? Else he would have been authorised to wear the 1939-45 Star? I am trying to track this bloke's career down not so much by positive info, but by discarding negative info!
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    Malcolm, Hi,
    My bloke was posted to 5480 GSMU on 18 Apr 45. The POR Ref is 2TAF/4494/45. Are you beginning to suggest that the entry in his Docs is a typo (or write-o) for GMSU? Won't be the first time!!! Prior to that he's been in 85 Grp Base Sigs & Radar Unit (POR Ref ????/2543/44) who had lost almost all their guys and kit in the LST 420 mining on 7 Nov 44. BUT - if he's only got the 43 Star then he can't have been with BS&RU on LST 420? Or am I reading 'modern' logic and reasoned argument into WW2 organisational/admin semi-chaos?
    Good 'ere innit?
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    Hi Peter

    Basically yes, which would fit with him previously being in another signals unit in 85 Group. Could the 4 be a 2?

    Can't help with the medal question

    Malcolm

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    Hello Peter

    My late father was issued with the ribbon of the 1939-1943 Star, but no actual medal was issued - finally when the war ended in 1945 they issued the 1939-1945 Star, and ribbon of course!!

    He served in the UK from pre-war until going to Normandy in mid-June 1944 and on eventually to Denmark after VE-Day.

    I found this on the web from the Launceston/Tasmania Examiner of 11 January 1944

    LONDON, Sunday (B.O.W.). --Provisional instructions for the issue of the ribbon of 1939 to 1943 Star have been issued by the War Office. The Star will rank after the Africa Star, and no one may receive both. The ribbon is dark blue, red and light blue, in three equal vertical stripes. The Star will be granted to all officers and other ranks in the United Kingdom and colonial forces, and also nursing officers and officers and other ranks of the Women's Auxiliary Territorial Service and Voluntary Aid Detachment officers and members. Recipients must have aggregated six months' service in any of the following commands: France, Norway, Belgium. Holland, N.W. Frontier of India before the end of 1942, Greece. Crete, Iraq, Syria, Persia, Hong Kong, Malaya, China, Burma. New Guinea, Madagascar, Sicily or Italy. Time as a prisoner of war in any of the above commands also counts. There are exceptions to the six months' qualifying rule. The Star is also awarded to those who have done six months' sea-going duty in dangerous waters with the anti-aircraft defence of the merchant shipping or anti-aircraft and light machine-gun troops for defence ships in Government service. Certain operations and commando raids will also qualify.

    and here is an answer of mine from 28 December 2008 !! http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...tars-confusion and in that piece is http://www.northeastmedals.co.uk/bri...rs_defence.htm

    With regard to the original question - as part of 125 Wing they had with them 505C M.S.U. a Mobile Signals Unit.

    Allan
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