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    Default S/Ldr Gerald Scott - 16 Squadron

    Hi All,

    I am looking for any information on Sqd Ldr Gerald Scott who I believe was with 16 Squadron although when he joined the squadron I am not sure (he was certainly there by late 1942). I believe he may have been based at Manston when Wolfgang Teumer crashed his ME109 near the airfield in 1940 and was one of the first on the scene.

    I have looked in the normal places, google, the LG etc. but cannot pin him down. I am aware however that Scott is quite a common name.

    I would be grateful for any help,

    TIA,

    Russ

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    Possibly a picture of him third from right in front row here, June 1942 Weston Zoyland.
    http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll211/gbh1f/Scott16Sqn.jpg
    Last edited by gbh1f; 3rd May 2008 at 19:50.

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    Russ, Could your man be Gerald King Scott, D.F.C (41745). If so I have his LG Info. Regards, Terry

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    Thanks very much for that lads,

    I suspect that my man may Gerald King Scott.. on the photo I noticed that he had a DFC (or at least an award) but could not find a citation linking him with 16 Squadron.

    Thanks Terry, if you have any further information on the award I would love to get the link but using his service number all I can get is just that he was awarded the DFC but with no squadron number...unless I have missed it...which I assure you is possible!

    Russ

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    Russ, Here is your man's career, although I could not find when he was appointed to a Short Service Commission, I suspect it was Dec 38:
    Air Ministry,
    31st October, 1939.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    The undermentioned Acting Pilot Officers on probation are graded as Pilot Officers on probation on the dates stated:
    30th Sep. 1939.
    Gerald King SCOTT (41745).

    Air Ministry,
    19th January, 1940.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    The undermentioned Pilot Officers on probation are confirmed in their appointments on the dates stated:
    28th Dec. 1939.
    Gerald King SCOTT (41745).

    Air Ministry,
    6th August, 1940.
    The KING has been graciously pleased to approve the undermentioned awards:
    Awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross.
    Pilot Officer Gerald King SCOTT (41745).
    The above awards are for gallantry and devotion to duty in the execution of air operations.

    Air Ministry,
    22nd October, 1940.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    The undermentioned Pilot Officers are promoted to the rank of Flying Officer on the dates stated:
    30th Sept. 1940.
    Gerald King SCOTT, D.F.C. (41745).

    Air Ministry,
    28th October, 1941.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    Flg. Offs. to be Flt. Lts. (war subs.):
    30th Sept. 1941.
    G. K. SCOTT, D.F.C. (41745).

    Air Ministry, 6th November, 1945.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    *Transfer to reserve.
    The undermtd. (and called up for Air Force service):
    28th Dec. 1942.
    Flt. Lts.:
    G. K. SCOTT, D.F.C. (41745).
    * The particulars shown as to branch, rank and decorations represent the position at date of transfer.

    Air Ministry, 8th March, 1946.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    RESERVE OF AIR FORCE OFFICERS.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    Promotion.
    Flt. Lt. to Sqn. Ldr. (temp.):
    1st Jan. 1946.
    G. K. SCOTT, D.F.C. (41745).

    Air Ministry, 2nd September, 1947.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    Appointment to commission.
    As Flight Lieutenants, extended, service (four years on the active list)*:
    Gerald King SCOTT, D.F.C. (41745). 1st Jan. 1947 (seniority 1st Mar. 1945) (and transferred to the Technical Branch on appointment).
    * Retaining their existing ranks under wartime rules.

    Air Ministry, 25th November, 1947.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    TECHNICAL BRANCH.
    The undermentioned relinquish the temporary rank of Squadron Leader, 1st Nov. 1947:
    Flight Lieutenants (substantive):
    G. K. SCOTT, D.F.C. (41745).

    Air Ministry, 5th July, 1949.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    TECHNICAL BRANCH.
    Appointment to commission.
    As Flight Lieutenants (permanent):
    Gerald King SCOTT, D.F.C. (41745). 19th Oct. 1948.

    Air Ministry, 1st July, 1954.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE.
    The undermentioned half-yearly promotions are made:
    TECHNICAL BRANCH.
    Flight Lieutenant to Squadron Leader:
    1st July 1954.
    G. K. SCOTT, D.F.C. (41745).

    AIR FORCE DEPARTMENT
    5th October 1976.
    ROYAL AIR FORCE
    ENGINEER BRANCH
    Retirement
    Squadron Leader G. K. SCOTT, D.F.C. (41745), 20th Sep. 1976.

    This maybe a quantum leap that is wrong, but when the awards were announced in the London Times it was under a heading of "The Operations In Norway". Also the three men who received the DFC with Scott and were listed as "now missing" were from 263 Sqn; Ede's death notice saying he was lost in HMS Glorious. Regards, Terry

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    Thanks very much Terry,

    I appreciate the effort!!

    I wouldn't think my Scott would have been with 263 Sqdn. as I am nearly sure he was based at Manston on 27th November 1940 as he was witness to Wolfgang Teumer's 109 crash.

    Also according to 'The B of B Then and Now' there were no G. K. Scotts in the Battle of Britain.

    Russ

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    Hi Terry,

    Gradation date for Acting P/O is 4th March 1939 for 41745 G K Scott.

    Carter gives his unit as No.4 Sqn for the DFC citation

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    Ross

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    Thanks Ross,

    No. 4 Squadron fits nicely with 16 both being army co-op! This adds to the assumption that 'Scottie' Scott in the photo may well be Gerald King Scott.

    Russ

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    Gents, Having done a little more reading I also don't like my 263 idea. Regards, Terry

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    Alternative caption to another copy of the same photo gives rank as Flt Lt and date May 42.

    Possibly this Flt Lt Scott left 16Sqn in Sept 42 to 225 Sqn as Sqn Ldr Air; then 169 Sqn Feb 43 in Flt Ops then 41 OTU. (From 16 sqn unofficial records)
    Last edited by gbh1f; 6th May 2008 at 15:15. Reason: typo

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