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    Default Gladiator II N5701 Lost 22/12/1939 Shetland

    All records of this incident I read say Gladiator N5701 "spun into beach at Sumburgh." I can find no pilot death on CWG for this date (or the date after) that could match so I assume the pilot survived maybe he baled out ?? can anyone suggest a name for him ? I can't see any likely name from my Unaccounted Caterpillar's for 1939

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    BTW I consulted (found on Internet)


    SHETLAND CRASH LOG

    Loss of aircraft in WWII

    Compiled by David Hanson

    22/12/1939 Gladiator II N5701 Shetland Fighter Flight

    Because of the frequent visits to Shetland by the Luftwaffe the Shetland Fighter Flight was formed. The Flight was also sometimes referred to as the Sumburgh Fighter Flight. Fighter Commands stretched resources meant only Gladiators could be spared. But what was missing in the way of numbers was made up by the enthusiasm of the pilots. Unfortunately the Flight did not leave any records, so we are left with some blanks in this interesting period of Shetland’s aviation history.


    This Gladiator was in the circuit at Sumburgh when it stalled and spun into the beach. There are no further details.


    And Halkans Biplane Fighter Aces from the Second World War web site

    http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/gladiator_raf_ff.htm




    22/12/39 Stalled in circuit and spun into beach at Sumburgh.


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    Paul

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    Hello Paul,

    I may be wrong but this man has a chance to be the one you seek.
    Flt/Lt. Frank. GOWER-JONES.
    service number 22136 RAF.
    at rest at Corstorphine Hill Cemetery, Edinburgh.
    DIED 24th December 1939.
    So perhaps survived the crash ?

    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...&GRid=57624355

    listed in Airforce List for Nov39 as 22136 Gower-Jones F. FL(RAFO) ..19.8.31
    and not in Dec39.

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    Last edited by Alex Smart; 30th May 2014 at 20:35.

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    Henk addressed and identified the incident for Gower-Jones in the archive.

    http://www.rafcommands.com/archive/15978.php

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    Hello Ross,
    Thanks for the link too Henk's earlier post, however he did not include the Gladiator as date was 22nd I expect, only the Magister and Master date being 24th .
    That said the 24th fits the bill with Turnhouse for both Magister and Gower-Jones.
    so will go with Henk on this God bless him.

    Back to the drawing board for pilot on 22nd then ?
    Alex

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    OK I had a look around this

    Shetlands Flight from 152 Sqn ORB

    25/11/1939 Original Party 3 Gladiators of Blue Section of B Flight to Sumburg

    F/Lt Frederick Mytton Thomas #37133 (Flight Commander) P/O Thomas william 'Jock' Gillan #70245 and P/O Richard Arthur Winter #73015

    4/12/1939 Two Reserve Aircraft Flown up by P/O John Sinclair Bucknall Jones #33467 and P/O Douglas Clayton Shepley #33464

    12/12/1939 P/O Bewsher Eric Bell #41653 and Frederick Hyam Posener #41735 to Sumburg

    15/12/1939 Sumberg Flight Transferred to Coastal Command 3 Pilots for posting
    (P/O Gillian, P/O Winter and P/O Neville Anthony Richard Doughty #72477) 5 airmen and 5 aircraft handed over

    However, Doughty joined them on the 5th January 1940, the unit being renamed The Fighter Flight RAF Sumburgh


    There is a photo of Gillen, Winter and Thomas in front of a Gladiator "xxx01" xxx not in photo at Sumburg this has to be N5701

    So I believe the pilot for N5701 was either Gillen, Winter and Thomas, Bewsher or Posener, either they forced landed rather than Spun in, or in fact they baled out as they all survived until 1940 and in fact Winter, Gillen and Thomas survived the war

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    18 Months later

    Gladiator II N5701 Lost 22/12/1939 Shetland - Pilot Frederick Hyam Posener #41735 spun in from 100 feet while overshot landing pilot injured

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