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    Default Looking for details on 2 Spit VII accidents

    Hello,

    I'm looking for details on two Spitfire VII accidents (especially name of the pilot):

    MD109: 20 Apr 45 (2 AGS)
    MD112: 9 or 29 Nov 45 (11 AGS)

    A-B book gives some details on MD109 (but without name) but is rather vague for MD112 however.

    Many thanks in anticipation

    Phil

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    Hello Phil

    I have for AD109 F/L with engine failure on the beach at Cape Wrath, Sutherland, and the pilot's name as JB Todd, no idea about his fate.

    For MD112 I have it written off as DBR, no further details.

    DaveW

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    Quote Originally Posted by davew View Post
    Hello Phil

    I have for AD109 F/L with engine failure on the beach at Cape Wrath, Sutherland, and the pilot's name as JB Todd, no idea about his fate.

    For MD112 I have it written off as DBR, no further details.

    DaveW

    Hello Dave,

    Thanks, a good step forward. As for Todd, would you have his service number or at least his nationality?

    Thanks
    Phil

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    Just a Guess and thanks to "The Ross McNeill" Gazette Search Engine

    SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 27 MARCH, 1945

    ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    Appointment to commission.
    As Plt. Offs. on prob. (emergency): —
    Wt. Offs.1088120 John Benjamin TODD (191309).

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulmcmillan View Post
    Just a Guess and thanks to "The Ross McNeill" Gazette Search Engine

    SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 27 MARCH, 1945

    ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    Appointment to commission.
    As Plt. Offs. on prob. (emergency):
    Wt. Offs.1088120 John Benjamin TODD (191309).

    Nice stuff, thanks. The only guess is what rank Todd had when the accident occurred as he received his commission too close of the actual date of the loss. Was he still a Warrant Officer or already a Pilot Officer? Maybe Dave can answer to this one.

    Phil

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    Phil,

    Sorry I don't know any more. I can't even say where I got the original info. from now.

    DaveW

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    Phil,

    MD112 was 9th November 1945. Details are: P/O Eric Gordon Gale 200767, aged 27, missing believed killed whilst pilot of Spitfire MD112 carrying out dummy attack on Wellington a/c in the course of air gunner training with 11AGS, Andreas, over the south of the IOM.

    Stevie

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    Sorry Stevie, but I think you should see this :

    http://www.rafcommands.com/archive/07510.php

    a15.
    Last edited by angelsonefive; 6th June 2014 at 02:28. Reason: Corrected link.

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    I think we have a mystery then. 11 AGS ORB clearly states that the pilot of MD112 was P/O E. G. Gale...

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    A little bit more research on this one. It seems from the link supplied by angelsonefive that ‘The 16 Ferry Unit ORB does NOT list Gale as a member of the crew of PN776’ and much appears to be speculation, as he was lost at sea on the same day as MD112 was lost and he is recorded on Runnymede.

    In the link http://www.rafcommands.com/archive/05694.php Paul Hutchinson (Who’s father was lost on PN776) stated that “P/O E.G. Gale was NOT the name given to me by RAF as crew member”.

    Could the above point to the fact that Gale was lost in MD112? Or can anybody come up with an official crew list placing him on PN776?

    Stevie

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