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    Hello All,

    Before, during, and immediately after, WW2 if you Enlisted in the RAF/RAFVR you got one Service Number. If you were subsequently Commissioned you got another Service Number. At some stage this procedure was dropped. I have, for some time, been trying to find out – without too much success - when this occurred. UREKA! I was digging in the LG when I found the date on which my bloke was Commissioned – 30 Apr 52. The LG entry, though, sticks to its ‘usual’ format :- Enlisted Number, Full Name, (Officer Number). Both numbers in this case (and many either side of that entry) are the same!! Thus, by 30 Apr 52, we are into the “only one number” era. Can one hazard a guess that the formal change in the number system was wef 1 Apr 52? I simply give you this for what it is worth!
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    Hello All,

    I was wrong!
    Prior to 12 Jun 47 the LG records both Numbers when Enlisted becomes Commissioned.
    After 12 Jun 47 (as far as I can see) the LG records two numbers on Commissioning from Enlisted – but they are the same!!
    Thus, as in my previous, you only, now, have one number.
    Question: What organisational change occurred to the RAF/RAFVR, etc, in June 1947? Does anybody know? Possibly one for Young Officers Routledge and Barrass?
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    Hi Peter

    I'm afraid I don't know but was possibly introduced to make the administration easier.

    Was it around that date the Reconstitued RAFVR was introduced?

    Malcolm

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    Malcolm, Hi,

    You're probably right - that hadn't clicked with me! But I can't see the technical connection! Where do I go for Chapter/Verse/Line on this?
    The RAF does seem to go out of its way to make life difficult! Like putting a check letter at the end of Service Numbers! Excel don't like it!!

    Tks yr help

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    I suspect that the recording systems were probably updated possibly including the introduction of some 'mechanical' pre computer system, which required a more streamlined sequence.

    The check letter helps differentiate Officers from ORs now with the letter at the front of ORs and at the end for officers, I assume the letter simply moves in the case of an OR/NCO being commissioned. This has been mentioned on the forum before.

    The changes were probably announced in an AMO but I've no idea which.

    Malcolm

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    Malcolm,
    Thank you for that nugget of info. My Excel still won't like it!!
    I had assumed that the 'Check Letter" was some computer wizardry to ensure that the 'numbers' didn't suffer from typos. or 'clerk-isms'!
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    Peter

    you could try reformatting your 'numbers' column as 'text'. As no calculations are involved, it should work OK with searching/shuffling.

    regards

    DaveW

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