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    I have found a number of "Z Service Numbers" in Air79 Online these are

    First name(s) Last name Birth year Birth county Attestation year Service number Occupation
    John Benson — — — Z6 Clerk
    Harry Edward Bishop — — — Z121 —
    H F Harper 1888 — — Z374 —
    A J Horne — — — Z179 —
    F Krockel 1888 — — Z247 —
    H D W Smith — — — Z192 —
    E C Sweeney 1891 — — Z204 —
    H L Willis 1883 — — Z2 —

    I thought it might be a typo for 2 but it appears not does anyone know what they are. I assume by dates of birth they are pre WW1 - I looked up Krockel and Sweeney on Muster Rolls and Air 78 with no luck

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    Looks like correct format is Z/247 LG has him Frank Krockel
    but what does it mean?

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    Paul,
    His mate is on the previous page:

    7th Sept. 1918.
    Z/374 Horace Ford Harper.

    Conundrum?

    HTH

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    Peter thanks but does not explain what Z Service number were!

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    Z prefix is a hangover from the pre 1918 RAF formation.


    Prior to 1920 the Army number was a Regimental number with Z prefix being used by the Rifle Brigade.

    This formation was mostly Short Service and Special Reserve so it is my belief that the AIR 79 Z prefix numbers are a short lived continuation of the Special Reserve/Short Service group.

    Once the RAF was confirmed and the personnel did not take the option of reverting to previous Army or Royal Navy the use was discontinued.

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    Scratch that belief - it was garbage.

    Z prefix was South African RFC

    This is Harry Edward Bishop medal card reference
    http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...s?uri=D1345386

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    Ross thanks for that I was flowing your possible Rifle Brigade possibly and found these 5 on CWGC

    WILSON, D L Private Z/352 09/04/1917 Royal Flying Corps United Kingdom II. A. 4. MOROGORO CEMETERY
    South African Sqdn

    WHITE, A Air Mechanic 1st Class Z/357 03/02/1918 Royal Flying Corps United Kingdom 4. A. 13. DAR ES SALAAM WAR CEMETERY
    South African Sqdn

    THOMPSON, G Air Mechanic 2nd Class Z/302 28/11/1916 Royal Flying Corps United Kingdom VI. C. 4. MOROGORO CEMETERY
    26th South African Sqdn

    FIRTH, T M Corporal Z/225 08/12/1916 Royal Flying Corps United Kingdom 1. E. 16. DAR ES SALAAM WAR CEMETERY
    South African Sqdn

    BISHOP, HARRY EDWARD Serjeant Z/121 18/10/1917 22 Royal Flying Corps United Kingdom 4. H. 10. DAR ES SALAAM WAR CEMETERY

    South African Sqdn

    Son of Mr. A. E. Bishop, of The Woolpack Hotel, Tenterden, Kent, England.

    HUTCHINGS, E M Flight Serjeant Z/105 18/06/1916 Royal Flying Corps United Kingdom 3. F. 16. DAR ES SALAAM WAR CEMETERY
    26th South African Sqdn.

    Son of Ralph and Mary Jane Hutchings, of Willow Cottage, Oxford Rd., Benson, Wallingford, England.

    Yes South African RFC!

    Interesting article here
    http://www.historyjournal.co.uk/home/26-squadron-rfc

    BTW I sorted the Z Service Rifle Brigade numbers on CWGC very sad to see almost all of the numbers on the site from Z1 to Z9999 with not many gaps

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