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    Hi all,

    I have a case of Jock Smith, Scot, no idea if NCO or Officer, no trade known, I suspect Pilot or Navigator, was shot down over Netherlands (no date given), parachuted to the safety, was hidden by a Dutch family and later helped to return to the UK. After was he probably served as an Air Traffic Controller.

    Any idea how to identify him and found more about the story?

    TIA

    Pavel
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    Pavel,
    Possibly, F/Lt J.G. Smith, 78sqdn. Halifax JN974 on ops to Frankfurt 20/12/43. Evaded in Holland, got back to UK on 14/6/45 via Brussels
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    Pavel, Hi,
    This is quite simple(LOL LOL!!!).
    1 Get all the Smith’s who evaded, and returned (cannot be too many?).
    2 Check their Service Numbers on the LG (determine if Officer, or SNCO).
    3 If Officer chase him up via the LG (and, subsequently, the Air Traffickers Association – at RAF Shawbury?).
    4 If SNCO chase him up via the Air Traffickers Association?
    That should keep you off the streets for a couple of months?!!!!!! LOL
    Best I can offer
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    Dear Pavel
    Oliver Clutton-Brock "Evaders" lists 21 Smith as evaders, but only 3 from Holland.

    As Alan has suggested there is:
    F/Lt J.G. Smith, 120608, 78sqdn. Halifax JN974 on ops to Frankfurt 20/12/43. Evaded in Holland, got back to UK Northolt on 10/9/44 via Brussels. MiD 14/6/45 WO208 3323 2603

    also:
    Sgt A. J. Smith, 615794, 190sqdn. Stirling on ops to Arnhem supply drop 21/9/44. Evaded in Holland, got back to UK Croydon on 22/9/44 via Brussels. Aircraft ditched in River Waal. WO208 3324 2634

    and:
    Sgt R. A. Smith, 1213143, 10sqdn. Halifax JD307 on ops to Essen 25/7/43. Evaded in Holland, got back to UK Portreath on 28/10/43 via Brussels via Belgium, France, Spain, Gibraltar. With Sgt JN Hempstead WO208 3316 1507

    Don't draw too much hope on the name Jock. It could be real or just that his origins were 'north of the border'.
    Hope this helps
    James

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    Hi chaps, many thanks for all your comments, particularly to Alan and James, who saved me from the procedure suggested by Peter:)

    Anyway, the winner is James Gellately SMITH (120608) - thanks to the service numbers provided by James it was piece of cake to identify him with help of LG.

    I am really thankful for your great help - this long shot was not so difficult as I though at the beginning!

    Pavel
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    Dear Pavel,
    A perfect example of how this great forum works. Glad to have been of service. I know a couple of 'Jocks' who's first name is not Jock, so I am pleased we were able to help identify your man.
    Best wishes and happy hunting
    James

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    Hi all
    Need to ask, what is LG short for ???????
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    Hi Soren,

    LG stands for the London Gazette which you can find online at https://www.thegazette.co.uk.
    It is a great tool for promotions and decorations of British officers - RAF, Navy, Army and much more.

    Pavel
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    Thanks for info Pavel
    Best regards
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    Hi all,

    I would like to return back to the crew of JN974.
    Anyone could helop me to identify another Smith from the crew?
    There was F/O S. Smith who became PoW.

    Ross mentioned in his PoWs list two possible candidates:

    141795 S. Smith
    121394 S. Smith

    Any help which one of them was aboard JN974 on that night of 20.12.1943 much appreciated.

    Pavel
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