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    Dear all,

    I am currently working on the 27-28 June 1944 narrative and claims/losses listings for 27-28 June 1944 for the NJWD 2nd edition. A number of Bomber Command 'heavies' were lost over Belgium on the return flight, and I would appreciate any info on the following losses -especially on the times when they were shot down (I have all the basic info on these losses from Bill Chorley's 1944 volume):

    -75 Squadron Lancaster ND908

    -103 Squadron Lancaster ND925

    -550 Squadron Lancaster LL810

    -550 Squadron Lancaster JA712

    Cheers and thanks, Theo

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    Hello,
    The digitised casualty record of Aus421221 F/S.Lawrence Ireland contains an eye-witness account of the crash of ND925, on page 19, with a time around 2.00A.M. A postwar newspaper report that can be found at rebecq-memorial.eu,along with several other cuttings, concerning Sgt.Yardley of JA712 gives a crash time of 2.00A.M. as well.It appears that Sgt.Yardley may have survived rather a long fall to earth without a parachute.
    Date in the header should read 27-28 May 1944.
    Regards,Mark.
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    Hello ,

    I have the following info :

    ND925 at 0310 hrs
    LL810 at 0305 hrs
    JA712 at 0224 hrs

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    Alain12

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    Apologies for butting in, gentlemem, but I suspect, that the time differences for ND925 offered by Mark and Alain can be explained by them being given in a different a time datum. I think both are local times, but Mark's is Double British Summer Time and Alain's is the equivalent in Central European Tim (DBST+1).

    Brian
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    Hi Theo,

    According to a report I have they were hit by rail mounted flag guns which set one wing on fire. I have sent you the report via your email.

    Cheers,

    John.

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    Hello,

    Regarding the loss of No.103 Sqn Lancaster III ND925. Neither the defunct Lost Bombers, nor its more recent clone, have seen fit to mention the additional information provided by the original author, from whom both, sourced their material. At least Alan Storr* had the decency (albeit, not mentioning the amendment), to quote his source.

    Significantly, the aforesaid author, Bill Chorley, informs us, that; ND925 was attacked by a night-fighter prior to being hit by flak from rail-mounted flak guns.

    http://www.rafinfo.org.uk/BCWW2Losses/1944.htm

    Scroll down to: 1944/245 103/ND925.

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    http://static.awm.gov.au/images/coll...25_005--1-.pdf

    See: p.119 of 507

    Col.
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    Hello and good morning chaps,

    Many thanks for this detailed information re. the losses over Belgium, and apologies for the wrong date in the header..

    May I ask you one additional question Alain about the times that you quote for three losses; do these stem from local police reports or other local primary sources?

    Cheers, Theo

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    Hello Theo ,

    I found the times off the crashes in one off your books.
    Regards
    Alain12

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    Hi Alain,

    Thanks, but I'm now looking for confirmation of the (exact) times of the crashes of these a/c from local official documents, like police reports/diaries etc. Cheers, Theo

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