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    Hi
    according to http://www.airhistory.org.uk/dh/_DH9...odn%20list.txt
    Mosquito FBVI HJ717 23 Sqdn RAF Missing 18.9.43 NFD
    Can anyone help determine what actually happened to this Mosquito FBVI?
    And can I identify crew?
    Can anyone help determine what actually happened to this Mosquito FBVI?
    And can I identify crew?
    Thanks for your assistance
    Pavel

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    Hi Pavel,

    You had a similar double copy-pasted request at the TOCH board, however another Mossie being the subject there.

    Again the ORB doesn't list a lost Mosquito and I fear that the info you are working from is inaccurate.

    Regards,
    Hans

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    Hi Hans
    information from:
    http://www.airhistory.org.uk/dh/_DH9...odn%20list.txt
    to for now always reliable!
    Two errors now ?:
    Mosquito HJ717 FBVI 23 Sqdn RAF Missing 18 September 43 NFD
    Mosquito FBVI HP852 21Sqdn Missing on NAVEX in bad weather 19 October 44

    What Mosquito:
    HX804 FBVI 23Sqn Lost 1 April 44 NFD
    MM733 NF30 219Sqn Missing from patrol over Scholdt estuary 19 April 45
    Some information about?
    Regards Pavel

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    Hi Pavel,

    HX804 YP-P
    F/O S. Sutcliffe
    F/Sgt J. Barr
    Took off 19.25 hrs, crashed 23.00 hrs at Ghissonaccia because of starboard engine failure. Crew OK.

    MM733
    F/O Young
    F/O Fagan
    F/O Fagan bailed out 4 miles behind front line when Mosquito was still under control. There was hope for F/O Young.
    Unfortunately no further details

    Regards,
    Hans

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    Hello,

    Re: No.219 Sqn Mosquito MM733.

    YOUNG, Ronald Leicester Flying Officer 1334350/(178786) - + 19/04/1945 No.219 Sqn.

    Ron Young completed his training as a night fighter pilot with 54 OTU during the period March-November 1943, and here teamed up with Guy Fazan* as his radar operator. The pair were then posted to 219 Squadron as Sgts in Spring 1944, where they were commissioned on 25 May. On 19 April 1945 their Mosquito was shot down in error by another of the unit's aircraft, flown by a Belgian crew. The Belgians** and Young were all killed. But Fazan, like his pilot now a Flg Off, managed to bale out.

    Claims - 2 Destroyed

    See: Those Other Eagles/Shores p.668

    * 1578262/(174237) Norman Guy FAZAN RAFVR

    ** Albert PETRISSE & Maurice LALOUX ?

    Shores' account doesn't ring true. What caused the death to the two Belgian airmen?

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 17th October 2014 at 13:17.

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    Hi
    many mysteries, many opinions:

    http://www.airhistory.org.uk/dh/_DH9...odn%20list.txt
    MM733 NF30 219Sqdn Missing from patrol over Scholdt estuary 19 April 45
    NT380 NF30 219Sqdn Missing from patrol over Schelde 20 April 45


    http://www.inmemories.com/Cemeteries...elsbelgian.htm
    PETRISSE ALBERT JOSEPH GHISLAIN
    United Kingdom Flying Officer (Pilot) Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 219 Sqdn. Killed19/04/1945 153762
    LALOUX MAURICE HENRI JOSEPH
    United Kingdom Flight Sergeant (Nav.) Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 219 Sqdn. Killed19/04/1945 1424951

    (In 219 Squadron - Belgian Wings)
    -The following month, on 18th April, PETRISSE and his comrade LALOUX takes off from Gilze-Rijen to operate over Northern Germany. The Flak again is the cause of the loss of their Mosquito FK-Z which crashes at Visselhövede killing the crew. After the war, their bodies will be found hurriedly burried in the Wehnsen cemetery (near Soltau).

    Roba, J.-L. - Belgen in de RAF / 3 - Albert Petrisse, Maurice Laloux
    says both killed 18.4.1945
    Op 18 april onderging een andere Belgische Mosquitobemanning van 219 squadron hetzelfde lot: Albert Pétrisse en Maurice Laloux.

    http://www.aircrewremembered.com/raf...ungronald.html
    Pilot: F/O. Ronald Leicester YOUNG 178786 R.A.F.V.R - Killed
    Nav. F/O Norman Guy FAZAN 174237 R.A.F.V.R - Survived.

    Is possible?
    MM733
    Pilot: F/O Albert Joseph G. PETRISSE - 153762 R.A.F.V.R. - killed
    Nav. F/Sgt Maurice Henri J. LALOUX - 1424951 R.A.F.V.R. - killed
    NT380
    Pilot: F/O. Ronald Leicester YOUNG - 178786 R.A.F.V.R - Killed
    Nav. F/O Norman Guy FAZAN - 174237 R.A.F.V.R - Survived.
    Regards Pavel

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    Hello Pavel

    You should contact the RAF Museum in Hendon, department of research & information service, and ask for copies of the forms 1180 (accident cards) for these Mosquitoes. This would give you the first hand informations. Movement cards (form 78) could also be useful for your research, but in this case, I'll go along for the 1180 first.

    Joss

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    Hello
    Thanks you very much, good idea.
    Regards Pavel

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