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    450119 - Unaccounted Airmen - 19-01-1945

    From Henk's List -

    FRANCE
    COUCHMAN, George Richard - Cpl - 1610974 - RAFVR - Cambrai (Route De Solesmes) Communal Cemetery, Nord, France.

    ITALY
    MORGAN, Wilfred - LAC - 1011329 -RAFVR - Naples War Cemetery, Italy.

    UK
    CAMERON, James Lindsay - Sgt - 984337 - RAFVR - Runnymede Memorial, Surrey. [ Dakota - KJ931 - 108 OTU ].
    DEAN, William - Sgt - 1590636 - RAFVR - Runnymede Memorial, Surrey. [ Dakota - KJ931 - 108 OTU ].
    GARLAND, Lawrence George - Cpl - 1223062 - RAFVR - Beckenham Crematorium & Cemetery, Kent.
    GRAY, Ronald James - AC1c - 1195573 - RAFVR - Reading Cemetery, Berkshire.
    OGDEN, Douglas Hartley - F/L - 89727 - RAFVR - Oban (Pennyfuir) Cemetery, Argyllshire.
    PARR, George - LAC - 1005807 - RAFVR - Armthorpe (SS. Leonard & Mary) Churchyard, Yorkshire.
    PINFOLD, Walter William - F/S - 950971 - RAFVR - Runnymede Memorial, Surrey. [ Dakota - KJ931 - 108 OTU ].
    WARDLAW, Robert - LAC - 982077 - RAFVR - Bedlington (Netherton Lane) Cemetery, Northumberland.

    From CWGC & Geoff's sites -

    EGYPT
    DOBSON, Thomas Trotter - Sgt(Pilot) - 1568802 - RAFVR - Alexandria (Chatby) Military & War Memorial Cemetery, Egypt.
    EADIE, John - Sgt - 3020157 - RAFVR - Alamein Memorial, Egypt.
    FORSTER, Edward - Sgt (Nav/Bomber) - 1616761 - RAFVR - Alexandria (Chatby) Military & War Memorial Cemetery, Egypt.
    GRUNDY, John Desmond - Sgt - 1584748 - RAFVR - Alamein Memorial, Egypt.
    HURCOMBE, Jack Ronald - Sgt - 1587975 - RAFVR - Alamein Memorial, Egypt.
    JOHNSON, Hugh - Sgt - 1685607 - RAFVR - Alamein Memorial, Egypt.
    MacDONALD, Donald John - Sgt - 1823589 - RAFVR - Alamein Memorial, Egypt.
    OWEN, Richard Hayden - Sgt (A/G) - 1415771 - RAFVR - Alexandria (Chatby) Military & War Memorial Cemetery, Egypt.
    SHIELDS, James Maxwell - Sgt (Wireless Operator(Air)) - 2220235 - RAFVR - Alexandria (Chatby) Military & War Memorial Cemetery, Egypt.
    SYKES, Leonard Robson - Sgt - 1820179 - RAFVR - Alamein Memorial, Egypt.
    WALTERS, David John - Sgt - 1452964 - RAFVR - Alamein Memorial, Egypt.

    INDIA
    COHEN, John Laurence - AC1c - 1830908 - RAFVR - Madras War Cemetery, Chennai, India.

    SINGAPORE
    HODGE, William - LAC - 1665618 - RAFVR - Singapore Memorial, Singapore. [ not recorded in "Unsung Heroes"].

    UK
    LANGTON, George Robert Oliver - F/O (Pilot) - 160650 - RAFVR - Wakefield Cemetery, Yorkshire.
    McKENNA, John Francis Xavier - Grp/Capt - A F C - RAF - Durrington Cemetery, Wiltshire. [ Mustang IV - KH648 - A&AEE ].
    MOORES, Bernard - F/L (Pilot) - 88254 - RAFVR - Sheffield Crematorium, Yorkshire.
    WILLIAMS, joseph Leonard - W/O (Pilot) - 1388308 - RAFVR - Rickmansworth (Chorleywood Road) Cemetery, Hertfordshire. [ Mosquito T.III - HJ992 - 1 FU ].

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    FRANCE
    COUCHMAN, George Richard - Cpl - 138 Wing

    ITALY
    MORGAN, Wilfred - LAC - 113 MU.

    EGYPT
    DOBSON, Thomas Trotter - Sgt(Pilot) - probably killed whilst flying in Baltimore V, FW715 of No 75 OTU, which spun into the ground near Damanhur in Egypt.
    EADIE, John - Sgt - RAF Abu Sueir.
    FORSTER, Edward - Sgt (Nav/Bomber) -see Dobson.
    GRUNDY, John Desmond - Sgt - RAF Abu Sueir.
    HURCOMBE, Jack Ronald - Sgt - RAF Abu Sueir.
    JOHNSON, Hugh - Sgt - RAF Abu Sueir.
    MacDONALD, Donald John - Sgt - RAF Abu Sueir.
    OWEN, Richard Hayden - Sgt (A/G) - see Dobson.
    SHIELDS, James Maxwell - Sgt (Wireless Operator(Air)) - see Dobson.
    SYKES, Leonard Robson - Sgt - RAF Abu Sueir.
    WALTERS, David John - Sgt - RAF Abu Sueir.

    INDIA
    COHEN, John Laurence - AC1 - 322 MU.

    SINGAPORE
    HODGE, William - LAC - 184 Wing

    UK
    CAMERON, James Lindsay - Sgt - Dakota - KJ931 - 108 OTU ].
    DEAN, William - Sgt - Dakota - KJ931 - 108 OTU ].
    GARLAND, Lawrence George - Cpl -registered in Lewisham.
    GRAY, Ronald James - AC1 - registered in Uxbridge.
    OGDEN, Douglas Hartley - F/L - died suddenly in Scotland.
    PARR, George - LAC - registered in Uppingham.
    PINFOLD, Walter William - F/S - Dakota - KJ931 - 108 OTU ].
    WARDLAW, Robert - LAC - registered in Northumberland Central
    LANGTON, George Robert Oliver - F/O (Pilot) - probably killed whilst flying in Oxford I, HN587 of No 21 (P) AFU, which crashed near Besston Rylands in Nottinghamshire after stalling in a turn.
    McKENNA, John Francis Xavier - Grp/Capt - probably Mustang IV - KH648 - A&AEE ].
    MOORES, Bernard - F/L (Pilot) -see Langton.
    WILLIAMS, joseph Leonard - W/O (Pilot) - probably Mosquito T.III - HJ992 - 1 FU ].

    Malcolm

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    The following came from the Hucknell & No.21 (P)AFU ORBs.

    January 19th 1945, Clifton, “Oxford HN587 belonging to No.21 (P)AFU crashed in the vicinity of this station, both occupants (F/Lt Moores and F/O Langton) were killed.”

    January 19th 1945, Medical Section, “Message received from Flying Control re crash near Burroughs Farm, Clifton nr Nottingham. Occupants were killed, Flying Officer Langton and Flight Lieutenant Moor of RAF Wheaton Aston.”
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    http://www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk/

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    The Wing sick quarters, Wing 138, states : Cpl Couchman R.A.F.S.P. [?] fatally injured by a lorry on the main Cambrai-Douai road on the evening of the 19th of January. This makes the sixth fatal road accident since the arrival of the wing at Epinoy.

    Have always wondered about R.A.F.S.P. ?

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    RAF SP almost certainly refers to the 'Snowdrops' - or, at least, it did so in my time!! And they always had a Cpl's tapes up, even if they were only substantive LACs.
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    Hello

    Thanks Simon and Peter.

    Peter, not all of us are English... Can you explain what the "snowdrops" are ? I imagine they are the Service Police, but I'd like to be sure.

    Can anybody confirm that M.P. is U.S. ? and S.P. British ? I have no knowledge at all in this field.

    TIA

    Joss

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    Joss

    MP = Military Police in the British and US Army

    Malcolm

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    Joss, sorry!
    "Snowdrops" (after the winter/spring flower - white on top, green underneath!!) was the derogatory phrase used to describe the RAF Service Police (SP) on account of the fact that they wore white covers to their No 1 Service Dress caps when on duty (the UK Army Military Police (MP) were "Redcaps" because they wore red covers to their SD caps). The phrase 'MP' for Military Police may be used by many countries. Can't remember what the Navy "Shore Patrols" (ashore) or their Regulating Officers (afloat) wore!!
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    Hello

    Thanks for enlighting me about this. I thought they were called MP wherever... Even in France...

    It never occured to me that the Police in the R.A.F. was called this way. Learning all the time, and that's the greatest advantage of this board.

    Joss

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