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    Hello,

    Just saw today (on Wikipedia, for what is worth) that a number of Baltimore were lost on delivery across the Atlantic Ocean when two ships carrying them were sunk.

    I would like confirmation of this and the ID of the ships. Number and serials of Baltimore lost will be a bonus.

    Thanks in advance

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    Laurent:

    According to The BAC and Lend-Lease, compiled by Meekcoms, 35 Baltimore Mk.Is with serials in the AGxxx series were lost in sunk ships en route to the MAAF. All the serials are there if you want them but not how they broke down by ship or the names of the ships.

    Out of interest, a significant number of bound Baltimores, around 64 at a quick glance, crashed 'after export' - which I assume means while being delivered by air - or in the US prior to delivery.

    Robert
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    Laurent
    To add to Robert's advice; "Air Arsenal North America" (Butler and Hagedorn) gives the following:
    "AG685, 686, 755, 791, 84? 845, 849, 855, 867, 868, 874, 883, 888, 891, 895 - 897, and AH103 were lost at sea in ships sunk en route to the Middle East".

    I have not seen a Baltimore record card, but the Cornell and Argus cards often (but not always) record the ship on which they were delivered to Africa or India, etc. Of those Cornells that were lost the RAF record card carries a note along the lines of "Lost Enroute" or "This aircraft will not arrive". From this it was possible to identify the two ships that were lost carrying Cornells - and by using Lloyds Registers, etc., to identify the U-boats responsible.
    Hope this helps, Tony Broadhurst

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    Hi Tony:

    The lists in the two books are actually the same but there are two misprints in the Arsenal book: '84' ('84?' as you have marked it) should read 844 while '8880891' should read 888-891. Both books then indicate 35 aircraft lost at sea.

    Robert

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    Thank you Robert I will amend the text.
    Tony

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    Thanks to all

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    http://www.historyofwar.org/articles...imore_III.html

    "A number of these aircraft were lost in transit when the merchant ships SS Thurso Bank (22nd March 1942) and SS Loch Don (1st April 1942) were sunk crossing the Atlantic. "

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    Hello,

    22-3-1942 Thursobank - New York to Alexandria - U-373

    http://uboat.net/allies/merchants/ships/1463.html

    1-4-1942 Loch Don - New York to South Africa - U-202

    http://uboat.net/allies/merchants/ships/1492.html

    l'm not endorsing the comments on the site mentioned by Paul, simply commenting on the vessels lost.

    Baltimore AG755 is suspect, try AG775.

    Col.
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    That's correct, Col: AG775 it is.

    Just an observation: the page Paul cites is headed Baltimore III and the text suggests those lost in the two sinkings were Mk IIIs whereas the 35 quoted lost in the two books were a mix of Mk Is (2), Mk IIs (2) and IIIs (31). All this while writing Christmas cards too!

    Robert
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