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    Default Ramrod 1427 - 5 January 1945 - RAF Ursel

    Some elderly gents without computer agility asked me to address this honourable forum for a local project that has to with RAF Ursel, Belgium. They're wondering about some particularities about Ramrod 1427 on 5 January 1945.
    This day two Spitfires of 165 Squadron collided nearby the airfield, with both pilots (Scott and Quinn) killed. Details of this accident are known.

    Ramrod 1427 itself was a bombing mission to Ludwigshaven with Lancasters of No. 3 Group.

    Right now special interest goes out to the Fighter Command involvement: what squadrons acted as escorts? I believe some Czech squadrons took part?

    Also, the gents have an uncorfirmed report that a Mustang of 126 Squadron came to RAF Ursel on 11 jan 1945. If someone has access to the ORB, it would be great if that can be checked. If indeed a visit was made: is the name of the pilot mentioned and/or the purpose of the visit?

    Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks.

    Regards,


    Leendert at 10 miles/16 kms west of former RAF Ursel.

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    Hi Leendert

    126 Sqn reports that F/Off A O Durham in KH551/R was short of fuel at the target but does not specifically state that he landed at Ursel. All the Bentwaters sqns were involved in the escort with 64, 126, 129 and 234 on Mustangs and 118 and 165 on Spitfires. 150 Wing at Andrews Field (19, 122 and 316 on Mustangs) also took part. It will take me longer to check 133 Wing.

    Steve

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    When 316 (Polish) Sqn moved to Andrews Field it is not easy to pin down whether they joined 150 Wing or 133 (Polish) Wing I think it is more likely the latter and Sturtivant etc in RAF FTSU confirms that.
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    Hello Steve,

    Thanks for the quick reply! Just to make sure: you indeed refer to the escorts on 5 Jan 1945 as opposed to 11 Jan 45 when reportedly a 126 Squadron Mustang had landed at RAF Ursel?

    For sure, the info about the Mustang pilot was equally welcome to look further into here.

    Regards,

    Leendert

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    Yes my info about Durham definitely applies to 5Jan45.
    SB

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    Hello,

    AUS15612 F/O Allan Oliver DURHAM RAAF - No.126 Sqn 2-7-44 to 3-3-45.

    Col.
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    Hallo Leendert ,

    I have the following :
    5/01/1945
    Ursel B-67
    Spitfire IXC
    Landings accident due to the wind
    ML-364 - 313Sqn - RY- Bradwell Bay
    Sgt Ruprecht Josef ( SAFE ) Czech
    Greets
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    Dear Leendert,

    The orb of 313 Squadron (Air 27-1698) supplies the following information :
    Jan 5th. Weather, cloudy early morning and clearing later. 12 aircraft moved to Ursel for Ramrod 1427 leaving Bradwell Bay at 10.10 hours. Sgt. Huprecht J.crashed on landing. He was unhurt the aircraft being damaged Cat A.C. Another aircraft (pilot P/O S.W.McCracken) developed technical trouble and 10 aircraft eventually took off with the Wing led by S/Ldr. Hartman at 13.25 hours from Ursel to provide escort to 150 Lancasters bombing marshalling yards at Ludwigshafen. Rendesvous was reached on time but no bombers were seen. The Wing followed route and returned to base. P/O.Jacobs and F/S.Rehor landed at Brussels and remained there. F/S. Stojan landed at Antwerp and F/L. Masarik landed at Ursel. These pilots returned later to base.
    ML148 S/L O.Kucera D.F.C.
    MK670 F/0 F.Vavrinek
    ML195 F/L. F.Masarik
    MK694 F/S.C.J.Stojan
    ML171 F/O. I.F.R.Dickinson
    NH459 F/O. J.Marsik
    ML233 F/L. JA.H.Pinny
    NH261 P/O. O.Vychodil
    ML241 P/O. E.R.Jacobs
    ML197 F/S.J.Rehor

    Best regards

    Luc

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    Thanks for all the input so far.
    General idea behind the question(s) is to picture the circumstances for (also) 165 Squadron to fly to RAF Ursel first that day, which ended tragically for the two Spitfire pilots Scott and Quinn close to the airfield.
    RAF Ursel was frequently used as fuel stop and emergency field for UK-based fighter squadrons while on ops in NW Europe, it so appears.

    Regards,

    Leendert

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