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    I have been asked for help by the brother of an RCAF airman, who was lost with an 83 Sqn crew in March 1943 returning from an attack on Essen.

    Apparently, the aircraft was attacked and destroyed by a night fighter flown by Leutnant Robert DENZEL.

    Although I can help my enquirer with some things he asks, I know absolutely nothing about the German night fighter system or its records. My enquirer wondered if Denzel survived the war.

    Please can somebody point me in the right direction?

    Colin Cummings

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    Hi Colin,

    with help of Mr. Google I would say he did not survived the war - he got killed 3 month after he claimed mentioned RAF bomber.
    I suppose you mean one of these losses from Tony Wood Claims List:
    02.03.43 Ltn. Robert Denzel 12./NJG 1 Halifax  447 4G2 in See: 2.600 m. 01.05 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.130
    05.03.43 Ltn. Robert Denzel 12./NJG 1 Lancaster  4479F: 3.500 m. 22.02 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.133

    http://www.626-squadron.co.uk/willem3.htm
    http://www.teunispats.net/t2612.htm

    He claimed 9 victories till his death:
    http://aces.safarikovi.org/victories/germany-night.html

    HTH

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    Thank you Pavel, I have passed the information along and the enquirer has thanked you for your help.

    Colin Cummings

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    It was a pleasure Colin.

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    Hi Colin

    In the list at the back of Theo Boiten and Rod Mackenzie's 'Nachtjagd War Diaries', Vol 2, it says Lt Robert Denzel (7-9 night victories) was killed 25-26 June 1943 at Vollenhove in combat with a 141 Sqn Beaufighter V8744 (F/O H C Kelsey and Sgt E M Smith).

    You might find Kelsey's combat report up at Kew, or online. Or at least the 141 Sqn ORB will be there.

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    Colin, you don't give the airman's (or his pilot's?) name, nor the exact date, but IF it was on 5-6 March '43 (the second of the dates referred to by Pavel), Vol 1 of NJWD suggests that Ltn Denzel's victim that night 'may' have been (Denzel being one of two claimants for one a/c lost) a 49 (not an 83) Sqn a/c, Lancaster ED431 shot down 20km West of Texel at 22:02.

    On the other hand, the 83 Sqn a/c listed that night in NJWD was Lancaster W4847 (Pilot: F/S H A Partridge RCAF - source Chorley's BCL), shot down into the Ijsselmeer off Hindeloopen at 22:34 by Maj Helmut Lent of Stab IV./NJG1, not Denzel.

    Ian
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    Gentlemen,

    Thank you for the last two posts, adding additional information.

    The aircraft involved was indeed W4847, captained by F/S Partridge. I had taken information that the attacking aircraft was Denzel's and Chorley confirmed that. I now need to ask what happened to Helmut Lent?

    Colin Cummings

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    Hi Colin, Lent died after crash in 1944.
    Wiki has his complete bio:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Lent

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    Pavel,

    Again thank you for the information, which I have found on Wikipedia. Sounds like an interesting character.

    Colin Cummings

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