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    Hi guys

    On the night of 23/24 July 1940, a 10 Squadron Whitley enjoyed some success when it bombed Bergan aerodrome in Holland (see The Other Few). Sgt George Dove was the air gunner, but who was the pilot and what was the aircraft's serial number? I've called up the F540 from TNA but no joy.

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    G'day Brian,

    Not sure if this is a help, or a hindrance:-

    Tues-Wed 29-30 October 1940
    No.10 Sqn
    Whitley V P4957:ZA-E
    Op: Wilhelmshaven

    T/o 1658 Leeming for Wilhelmshaven and on return flew into high ground at Knarsdale Common, 3 miles from Slaggyford Station, Northumberland, itself 5 miles NNW of Alston, Cumberland. Trained under the pre-war RAF(VR) scheme and having attained the rank of Sgt, Peers was commissioned on 24 September 1940: Ottway, also pre-war RAF(VR) was commissioned from the rank of W/O on 1 December 1942.

    P/O W E Peers - Safe - See: !5-16 January 1941 - 58 Squadron.
    Sgt E H Ottway - Safe - Missing on active service 21 July 1943 F/O: 295 Squadron. Runnymede Memorial Panel 127.
    Sgt H R George - Safe - See: 18-19 June 1941 - 78 Squadron.
    Sgt G F Dove - Injured - DFM 18 April 1941 - 10 Squadron CGM 23 March 1943 - 101 Squadron: F/S.
    Sgt D A Milner - Safe - See: 29-30 May 1942 - 76 Squadron

    See:BCL1(2nd.ed.)/230.

    It's odd you mention a mission on 23/24 July, 1940. In Tavender's DFM (Vol.1 pp.535-8), there is a listing of Dove's first 31 ops - there is no mention of an op on 23/24 July, 1940! Dove's pilot at this time (20/7/1940 - 16/8/1940), was: 39876 F/O Michael Thomas Gibson HENRY DFC RAF.

    There is an op mentioned for 25/6/1940: Captain of aircraft F/L Cattell DFC (43355 Henry George CATTELL DFC RAF) - Owing to the primary target being obscured by 10/10th cloud an alternative target, the aerodrome at Haamstede, was successfully attacked. All bombs were dropped in one stick from 6.000 feet and hits were obtained on the hangars. No damage or casualties were sustained

    See also: http://www.yorkshire-aircraft.co.uk/...k40/p4965.html

    Col.

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    Hi Brian
    I have looked at 10 Sqad Orbs for 23 24 July 1940 there dont seem to be an entry for that date but on the 22 23 Whitley No N 1483
    was on ops with the following crew
    P O Henry
    P O Landale
    Sgt Shaw
    Sgt Fletcher
    Sgt Dove
    Hope this Is of some help
    Harold Dummer

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    Many thanks Col and Harold

    I believe the sortie in which I am interested was that of 22/23 July.

    Thanks again

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    Brian,

    I believe Larry Donnelly DFM, in The Other Few, got it wrong. The entry for Sgt Dove (on p.50), gives the impression that the event occurred on Tuesday, 23rd July, 1940.

    Here is the entry from Tavender's DFM Vol.1 (p.537), for Dove's op on 22/7/1940:-

    22/7/40 - Captain of aircraft - P/O Henry, D.F.C. The Bremen aircraft factory was attacked from 12,000 feet but low cloud prevented the observation of results. A.A. fire was slight but was of heavy calibre and accurate. No damage or casualties were sustained.

    The above account does not match up with Dove's account in The Other Few. The op I described in an earlier posting for 25/6/1940, does!

    Be interesting to see the entry from the No.10 Sqn ORB for the 25/6/1940 raid.

    Col.

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    Hi Col
    The orb for 10 squad 25 26 June 1940 Reads Bremen Sgt Dove and P O Henry flew with different crews as follows
    Whitley V P4953
    P O Henry
    P O Wakefield
    Sgt Knapper
    Sgt Fletcher
    Sgt Polkingholrne

    Whitley V 4965
    P O Cattell
    P O Wood
    Sgt Shaw
    Sgt Henry
    Sgt Dove

    Its early In the morning and there were two Henrys on this raid.

    Regards

    Harold Dummer

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    Harold,

    Appreciate that! Thank you. Dove is mentioned in Larry Donnelly's earlier tome, The Whitley Boys. l can't lay my hands on my copy at the moment (not home).

    Col.

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    Hi Brian and others,

    Some data have been mixed up in Donnelly's work:
    The account of Sgt Dove doesn't refer to the night of 23/24 july 1940, but 21/22nd June when they attacked Schiphol in Whitley P4965.

    Regards,
    Hans

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    Many thanks Hans, Col and Harold

    I will amend my records accordingly.

    Cheers
    Brian




    Quote Originally Posted by Hans Nauta View Post
    Hi Brian and others,

    Some data have been mixed up in Donnelly's work:
    The account of Sgt Dove doesn't refer to the night of 23/24 july 1940, but 21/22nd June when they attacked Schiphol in Whitley P4965.

    Regards,
    Hans

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