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    Default Bremen 8th October 1943

    Hi,

    Looking for the Pathfinder squadrons who marked this target for a all No.3 Group attack. I know No.35 were involved, but am not sure of the other squadron. I believe No.7, 83 and 97 were active over Hanover. The Night Raid Report records 12 Blind Markers (Halifax) and 7 backers-up (Lancaster). Where were the Lanc's from ?

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    Steve. Can tell you it wasn't 405 Sq

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    Hi Richard,

    Thanks mate. I have a feeling it was 156 but cannot confirm.

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    Hi Steve, on checking 156 ORB, it would appear the target was already marked when they arrived over Bremen. All the 156sqdn aircraft carried 1 x 4000 MC and 6 x 1000MC

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    Hi Alan,

    Thank you mate, can you confirm numbers despatched by No.156. The Night Raid Report records 7 Lancaster backers-up. I can confirm that 97-7 and 83 were over Hanover, Richard confirms 405 RCAF were also over Hanover. These were all the 8 Group Lanc squadrons at the time I believe.

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    Hi Steve, on checking 156 ORB, it would appear the target was already marked when they arrived over Bremen. All the 156sqdn aircraft carried 1 x 4000 MC and 6 x 1000MC
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    The Bomber Command War Diaries indicates 5 Group did the marking.
    "246 Lancasters and 7 Mosquitoes of 1 and 5 Groups carried out the last of 32 major Bomber Command raids on this target during the war. 5 Lancasters lost. The raid, based on the 5 Group marking method, was an outstanding success. 1,021 tons of bombs were dropped, of which 868 tons were incendiaries."

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    Steve,
    14 a/c to Hanover and 7 to Bremen, the 7 could of fit the backers up if not for the indicated bomb load, 1 x 4000 HC and 6 x 1000 MC carried by all.

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    Hi Alan,

    That seems to confirm No.156 was involved, Strange about the bomb loads.

    David, not sure what raid this could be, was not Bremen October 8th 1943.

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    Steve,

    David has inadvertently quoted the entry in BCWD for Bremen on 6/7 October 1944 (pp.595-6).

    Col.
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    Hi Steve,

    I've checked the Summary of Operations, part of the night bomb raid sheets (AIR14/2677) and the PFF Lancs had a bomb load of 1 x 4,000 + 6 x 1,000 + 4 x 250 TI each. Consulting the ORB of 156 Sqdn it turns out that the Target Indicators consisted of 2 x TI Green L/B and 2 x TI Green (without suffix). From the ORB it appears that the target already had been marked which is quite understandable when 156 Sqdn acted as back-up.

    Kind regards,
    Hans

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