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    Can anybody please help me with details on the following two pilots from No. 93 Sqn . Pilot Officer Lorand and Sgt Lloyd . Thanks

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    Can you give folks the time period you referring to Justin.
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    Its August 1942 and the Ju88 shoot down over Ireland.
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    Sorry Dennis , yes you are right both of these pilots were involved in combat with a Ju88 over Ireland in August , 1942 . Just trying to finalise a few details on the incident .

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    P/O M H Lorand 30687 (F/French) crashed Spitfire AB818 Vb 165 Sqn at Peterhead 2250 hrs. Cat A. Dusk flying. Swung off runway landing, tipped on nose in soft ground.

    Could he be one of the men you seek ?

    Alternatively you can download the 93 sqdn ORB file for August 1942 from our National Archive for 3:30 per month of record.

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    Ian

    Have missed the date of incident will add later.
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    Justin,

    The 93 Squadron ORB for 23 August 1942 notes them as 'P/O H. Lorand' in Spitfire BL333 and 'Sgt. G.Y. Lloyd' in AB245. It just notes they took off at 0805 on a 'Scramble' and landed back at 0930 and 0945 respectively. Nothing else.
    The following month Lorand was posted out to either 340 (French) or 540 (Photo Reconnaissance) Squadron, I cannot clearly make out the first digit of the new unit in the ORB. However it is almost certainly the former as we now know - thanks to Ian - that Lorand was French, and 540 Squadron was not formed until October 1942.

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    Martin.

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    Hi Ian ,
    many thanks for that information , yes that is my man I am pretty sure . I did not realise he was free French Forces .
    Martin ,
    as always you never fail to help out , many thanks and call down to see me when ever you are free .

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    "G Y Lloyds", assuming from England or Wales

    There was a

    Lloyd Gwynfor Y, born in Wales in 1915, seems to have died in 1968

    and a
    Lloyd Geoffrey Y G born in 1922 in Nothamptonshire.

    The latter had his commision published in the London Gazette dated 1st December 1942, promotion effective from 6th October 1942, and was promotted from the rank of Sergeant (as opposed to F/Sgt).
    1382136 Geoffrey Yale Glyn LLOYD (133033).

    And was killed in 1945 in a collision
    http://www.602squadronmuseum.org.uk/...of_honour2.php
    http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/ca...%20YALE%20GLYN
    He was the son of Olga and Glyn Lloyd, from Hurlingham, Middlesex
    I won't get to download the relevent AIR78 on the home connection, maybe someone could check for Gwynfor Y Lloyd if he might have been RAF?

    The 93 Sqn man might then be G Y G Lloyd, the ORB for the Squadron ought to mention his promotion unless he was posted away before Oct/Dec.
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    Hello,

    1382136 Geoffrey Yale Glyn LLOYD (133033), subsequently went to North Africa with No.93 Squadron, Oct/Nov, 1942. He made several claims whilst there (see: Fighters Over Tunisia/Shores et al. pp.67, 70 & 218). F/Lt G. Y. G. LLOYD was killed when his No.602 Sqn Spitfire IX SM538, collided in mid-air, with Spitfire XVI SM353, flown by 112749 F/L John Christopher Rowland WATERHOUSE RAFVR (later DFC), near Swannington, on 14 February, 1945. Waterhouse survived uninjured.(see: FCL3/148).

    Col.
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    Many thanks for your help Dennis and Col. BRUGGY . Great information posted here which will give me plenty to do researching !!!

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