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    Miles M-14A Magister L8259 of 2 E&RFTS Luton on July 3, 1939 Failed to recover from spin and abandoned near Luton.

    I have the pilot as Sgt Allan Bold

    I can't find anyone of this name in Air 78. The only near hit I can find is Alan Nuttall Bold #742053 Born 1913 died 1999

    His service number is right for 740000 to 759999 759361 Jan 1937 RAFVR Pilots

    Can anyone confirm the pilot? Thanks Pul

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    Yup, F1180 gives Sgt A N Bold 742053 for the 3rd July (but No.29 E&RFTS) - looks like he rode it down and did not abandon by chute.

    http://www.rafaircraftaccidents.com/...9/01000194.JPG

    http://www.rafaircraftaccidents.com/...9/01000195.JPG

    There was an earlier incident with this aircraft on 12th April (again with No.29 E&RFTS)

    http://www.rafaircraftaccidents.com/...9/01000156.JPG

    http://www.rafaircraftaccidents.com/...9/01000157.JPG

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    Many thanks and most helpful.. I see from F1189 that parachute was "not used". AB Miles book says "Failed to recover from spin and abandoned near Luton" but as Bold not on Caterpillar List so perhaps he did ride it down. I found this article on http://www.hemelatwar.org/imagedbres...?ProductID=204 and they have an interview with the late Warrant Officer Herbert David 'David' Denchfield # 748168 who joined RAFVR from Mid May 1939

    "I joined the No.29 E&RFTS RAF Volunteer Reserve at Luton. We were flying Miles Magisters; single engine, twin pilots ? one behind the other. The trainee pilot sat at the front. That went reasonably well for 3 weeks and then one of the instructors dived onto a section of the land owned by the Vauxhall firm. Both (pilots) survived but it was a bit of a mess and made the instructors realise how vulnerable they were."


    I can't see anymore No.29 E&RFTS Write-Offs for the period after he was at No.29 E&RFTS. I wonder if this is the incident and Bold was injured. So much so that he may not have served in flying capacity again.. This would explain why I can't find him anywhere else (LG, Flight Global, Casualty Lists etc) a pre war Sgt pilot who would have survived until 1945 would have hopefully been at least a W/O by 1945.

    Denchfield memory may have been at failure when he recalled 'two'

    Bold must have been very lucky to survive a incident like that


    Paul

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    12th April Incident No.29 E&RFTS

    Pilot is listed as J P Lowe
    Air 78 Search throws up John Prosspere Lowe 742492

    I think Prosspere should be Prospere

    Ancestry Search shows John Prospere Lowe (1914-1994)

    I DO NOT have a Ancestry account but there is a PDF Stories, Memories & Histories against his name

    Paul

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