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    Default Queries Mediterranean bomber losses late 1942-first half 1943

    Dear all,

    During the research of the Nachtjagd War Diaries 2nd edition, I have recently documented a number of German claims for (bomber) aircraft shot down by night in the Mediterranean theatre of operations during December 1942 and the first half of 1943, for which I have not been able to find matching Allied aircraft losses. I would be most grateful for any info on matching losses to the following claims:


    17-18 December 1942
    138 Sqn Wellington, lost on flight from Cairo to London; serial number?

    6-7 January 1943
    Wellington claimed shot down over Tunis

    18-19 January 1943
    Wellington claimed shot down over sea 30 km NW Cap Bon at 20.25 hrs

    29-30 January 1943
    Wellington claimed shot down over sea 10 km S. Pachino at 04.06

    8-9 February 1943
    Halifax claimed shot down over sea 45 km SE Pachino at 21.30 hrs
    Wellington claimed shot down over sea 60 km SSE Pachino at 22.13 hrs

    27-28 February 1943
    Wellington shot down over sea 30 km SSW Marsala at 04.35 hrs

    13-14 April 1943
    Whitley shot down 10 km S. Korba at 01.10 hrs

    14-15 April 1943
    Wellington shot down over sea 30 km W. Lampedusa at 01.24 hrs
    Wellington shot down 10 km. SW Korba at 01.43 hrs

    18-19 April 1943
    Wellington claimed shot down over s ea just S. Marettimo at 01.15 hrs
    Wellington claimed shot down over sea 20 km SE Marsala at 03.12 hrs
    Whitley V claimed shot down over sea 5 km N. Cap Blanc at 05.20 hrs

    23-24 April 1943
    Wellington claimed shot down over sea 15 km ESE Hammamet at 05.10 hrs

    18-19 May 1943
    Wellington claimed shot down over sea 20 km SSW Castel Vetrano at 00.25 hrs

    21-22 May 1943
    Wellington claimed shot down over sea 40 km SW Marsala at 03.13 hrs

    3-4 June 1943
    Swordfish claimed shot down low level over Med. At 03.19 hrs

    11-12 July 1943
    DC-3 claimed shot down over sea 10 km S. Agrigento at low level 02.58 hrs


    Cheers and thanks, Theo

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    Hi Theo,

    A possibility for the 18-19 January 1943 claim:

    https://static.awm.gov.au/images/col...25_019--1-.pdf see: p.498 of 535

    Crew:

    37958 S/L (Pilot) James Frederick Henry BOOTH RAF (later DFC. 142 Sqn. LG: 19/3/1943 p.1309)
    134656 P/O (Nav./B) William Jolliffe WHITEWOOD RAFVR (later DFC. 142 Sqn. LG: 30/3/1943 p.1468)
    1317475 Sgt (Bomb Aimer) Jack EDWARDS RAF (later DFM. 142 Sqn. LG: 19/3/1943 p.1309)
    AUS403958 Sgt (W.Op./Air Gnr.) Edward William SALMON RAAF (later DFM. 142 Sqn. LG: 25/5/1943 p.2322)
    AUS400243 P/O (Rear Gnr.) Geoffrey Maxwell WALDIE RAAF +

    Col.
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    Hello again,

    Two known losses for 8-9 February 1943:

    Halifax:

    https://static.awm.gov.au/images/col...25_012--1-.pdf see: p.15 of 47.

    Crew:

    1381429 Sgt (Pilot) Humphrey Ralph GREEN RAFVR +
    1318812 Sgt (Nav.) George Henry HALE RAFVR +
    987911 Sgt (W.Op./Air Gnr.) William Sutherland MURRAY RAFVR +
    1434390 Sgt (Bomb Aimer) Henry Nicholson BALMFORTH RAFVR +
    1087959 Sgt (Flt. Eng.) Michael Dennis McHALE RAFVR +
    1425873 Sgt (M.U.Gnr.) Donald McARDLE RAFVR +
    944296 Sgt (R.Gnr) Thomas Edward MACKRILL RAFVR +

    All commemorated on the Alamein Memorial.

    Wellington:

    https://static.awm.gov.au/images/col...25_017--1-.pdf see: p.402 of 479

    Crew:

    1054968 F/Sgt (1st Pilot) Roland MOORIN RAFVR +
    NZ412785 Sgt (2nd Pilot) Irwin Fowlds BAILEY RNZAF +
    AUS402559 F/Sgt (Nav.) Donald HOOD RAAF +
    997260 F/Sgt (W.Op./Air Gnr.) Tom PENROSE RAFVR +
    1262070 Sgt (W.Op,/Air Gnr.) Edgar Alexander ROLFE RAFVR +
    778496 Sgt (Air Gnr.) Hew Russell STEVENSON RAFVR +

    All commemorated on the Alamein Memorial.

    Col.
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    Hello,

    Known loss for 27-28 February 1943:

    Wellington:

    https://static.awm.gov.au/images/col...25_017--1-.pdf see: p.218 of 479

    Crew:

    67680 F/O (1st Pilot) Dundonald Nelson COCHRANE RAFVR + Malta Memorial
    AUS416001 F/Sgt (2nd Pilot) Arthur Alaexander DEY RAAF + Malta Memorial
    777732 Sgt (Obs.) George Wilson DEMPSTER RAFVR + Malta Memorial
    AUS406470 F/O (W.Op./Air Gnr.) George Frank DAVEY RAAF + Buried Catania War Cemetery
    J/18756 P/O (W.Op./Air Gnr.) Clifford Austin McARDLE RCAF + Buried Catania War Cemetery
    R/64923 Sgt (W.Op./Air Gnr.) Carl Elwood JAMIESON RCAF + Malta Memorial

    Col.
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    Hello and good morning Col,

    Thanks a lot for these most useful details; it appears that most of the losses that you mention make a good match to the German claims. I will edit some of the information that you provided into the chapter of the NJWD 2nd edition that is devoted to the night airwar over the Mediterranean theatre and SE Europe.

    Cheers, Theo

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    Theo,

    Suggestions as starting point for remaining losses: (from AB Serials)

    6/7 Jan [Z8496] Wellington II 104s

    29/30 Jan [DV484] Wellington Ic 70s

    13/14 Apr [HE537} Wellington X 70s

    14/15 Apr [LB142] Wellington VIII 458s
    [HZ125] Wellington III 40s (lost on 16th)

    18/19 Apr [HX487] Wellington VIII 221s
    [LB115] Wellington VIII 221s
    [HZ146] Wellington III 40s

    23/24 Apr ?? [HZ146] Blenheim V ?? Group Bretagne ??

    18/19 May [DV931] Wellington Ic 162s

    21/22 May [HZ183] Wellington III 150s

    3/4 Jun [T9260] Albacore I 828s

    11/12 Jul [FD815] Dakota I 267s

    dg

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    Theo,

    Re: 6-7 January 1943. I think you should also consider the following:

    https://static.awm.gov.au/images/col...25_018--1-.pdf see: p.193 of 465.

    Crew:

    72438 S/L (1st Pilot) Ivan Cornwallis STRUTT DFC RAFVR +
    R/91968 F/Sgt (2nd Pilot) Isador Nicholas YUDELL RCAF +
    112533 F/O (Obs.) Thomas LONSDALE RAFVR +
    1183634 Sgt (W.Op./Air Gnr.) James Joseph REDMOND RAFVR +
    AUS416071 Sgt (W.Op./Air Gnr.) Geoffrey Aloysius O'KEEFE RAAF +
    1049367 Sgt (Air Gnr.) John Joseph KELLETT RAFVR +

    All commemorated on the Malta Memorial.

    Col.
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    Hello and good morning Col,

    Thanks a lot for all your work and suggestions for further research, I will certainly pick it up from there!

    Cheers, Theo

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    Hi Theo
    I am researching the loss of DV474 on 30 Jan 1943 for a friend whose father Basil Mcmichael was the pilot. I wonder if you have any details of the pilot making the claim at 0406 and the fighter he was flying.

    Thankyou
    Regards John

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    Think my uncle James William Bousfield was on Wellington DV931. How do you know the number of the plane. What does Ic 162s mean? Andy Plant

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