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    Default Does anyone have Sky over Okney by Gregor Lamb?

    And if so can they look up sow thing for me many thanks Paul

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    actually sky over Scarpa

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    Paul,

    What do you need from "Sky Over Scapa 1939-1945"?

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    Thanks fro the reply

    I am trying to confirm something that is written in Fledgling Eagles (and see if it is mentioned) on 17th October 1939 (page 90) - A raid by Ju88 and He111 took off to raid Scapa Flow "During the raid an intrepid Fleet Air Arm pilot made a single-handed interception of the Heinkels in a Sea Gladiator and was shot down at once"

    Another report I have been told is that he "baled out" (but he is not on my bale-out list) and There is no Fleet-Air-Arm Casualty on CWGC on this date and I worry that he is un-named in Fledgling Eagles. I was wondering if the incident is mentioned in "Sky Over Scapa 1939-1945" and has any more details?

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    Paul,

    Here is what Gregor Lamb has to say on the events of 17 October, 1939:

    On 17 October (1939), the Luftwaffe struck. It was no Air Show by any means. Only four Junkers 88 bombers of this massive army of the air made the 900 mile journey from Sylt. Driving in from 11,000 feet they bombed and sank HMS "Iron Duke" but not without loss. The first enemy aircraft of the war to fall to anti-aircraft was shot down by Orkney gunners over Hoy and the only surviving member of the crew taken prisoner. Three hours later a more threatening formation of 15 high level bombers arrived and released their bombs over Scapa Flow, narrowly missing the 12,000 ton accommodation liner "Voltaire". At this stage in the war only military targets were attacked but one bomb fell, by mistake, on the island of Hoy, the fist part of the British Isles to be hit by a German bomb in World War II. From this small beginning, it was difficult to believe that, in under a year, with the Battle of Britain at its height, 372 bombers escorted by 642 fighters would attack London... Mercifully Orkney was beyond fighter support range. But what of the Royal Navy's own fighters in this engagement? The slow Skuas of 803 Squadron at Hatston made no contact with the enemy. (p.30)

    Aircraft Crash Records SCAPA World War II.

    1939.

    Date: 17/10/39.
    Aircraft: Ju88.
    Base/Squadron: Luftwaffe.
    Details: Crashed in sea between Hoy and Stroma shot down by shore AA during dive bombing attacks on HMS "Iron Duke" with three other JU88s. (p.151)

    Sky Over Scapa 1939-1945.
    Lamb,Gregor.
    Orkney:Byrgisey Press,1991.
    pp.30 & 151.

    Col.
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    Col

    Thanks - Very Helpful

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    Paul

    John Foreman mentions a Gladiator aircraft of the Scapa Defence Flight being lost on the date as you describe. Unable to find a corresponding loss in FAA A/c 1939-1945. Nor can I find a reference to Scapa Defence Flight. Was it FAA or RAF?

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    The excellent website on WW2 fighter biplanes by Hakan Gustavsson has no mention of such a Gladiator loss, nor of the 'Scapa Defence Flight'. Nor can I find a reference to this unit in any other source.

    Martin Gleeson.

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    Martin

    Scapa Defence Flight is cited by John Foreman in Fighter Command War Diaries. FAA A/c 1939-1945 mentions a Fighter Flight, Hatston against Sea Gladiator N5510

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