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    Looking for more information about squadron 461 with whom my father Flight Officer O.H. (Bob) Lewis served including Flight officer Roger Newton but more specifically Flight Officer Godsall in Sunderland DV989 which was attacked by 4 JU88''s on 23 march 1944

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    Hi there,
    as its an Australian unit you can access the unit diary and ORb via the Australian national archives.

    http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/Searc...aspx?B=1359213

    if that link don't work, just search for 461 Squadron within their search engine. "RecordSearch"
    http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/
    Dennis Burke
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    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
    www.ww2irishaviation.com

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    Hello Jon-lewis, and welcome.

    from Norman Ashworth's, 'The Anzac Squadron" (p.166)

    Also on 23rd March (1944), Flying Officer H Godsall and crew in Sunderland DV989 (UT-F) were on an anti-submarine patrol over the Bay when they were attacked by four Ju-88s. With the first attack shells blasted the Sunderland. A direct hit in the starboard wing severed the fuel line to the outer engine and stopped the hydraulic drive to the mid-upper turret, As incendiary entered the cockpit and the mainplane and the side of the hull was riddled with holes. Clever direction by the navigator, Flying Officer H. Turnbull, and skilled manoeuvring by Godsall prevented any further hits being scored on the disabled Sunderland, although the Junkers pressed on fiercely with their attacks until forced to break off on reaching their fuel limit. The Sunderland's guns replied to the enemy fire, and bullets were seen to enter many of the Junkers. Godsall landed at base, with no casualties. Because of the damage sustained in this action the aircraft had to be transferred to No.43 Group for repair.

    See:
    The Anzac Squadron:A History of No.461 Squadron Royal Australian Air Force 1942 - 1945.
    Ashworth,Norman (Air Comm. RAAF, [Ret.])
    Carlisle (WA): Hesperian Press,1994.
    p.166

    See: p.555 (F.540). and p.583 (F.541) of 946, in the No.461 Sqn RAAF ORB.

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    http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article128396721

    http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article78162087

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    Thanks Col. I was looking for an incident report for that event where my father O.H.Lewis climbed onto the wing to try and repair an engine but neither my fathers log book or the 461 incident reports mention it. The only report i have is one from the local newspaper here in Adelaide http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/arti...pstart11040214. I was hoping someone had more information on this
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    Hello Jon,

    Always good policy to include a crew list - in case someone has further information:

    23 March, 1944 - No.461 Sqn RAAF - Sunderland III DV989:UT-F.

    AUS429427 P/O Herbert Marshall GODSALL RAAF (+ 1/10/1944 - 461 Sqn)
    AUS418577 F/Sgt Reginald Charles ALLARDICE RAAF
    AUS419103 P/O Edwin Brand WILLIS RAAF (+ 1/10/1944 - 461 Sqn)
    AUS418211 F/O Henry Moore TURNBULL RAAF (+ 1/10/1944 - 461 Sqn)
    1066986 Sgt W RHODES RAFVR
    619992 F/Sgt Leslie George REMBLANCE RAFVR (+ 1/10/1944 - 461 Sqn)
    AUS423654 F/Sgt John Colin COTTIER RAAF (+ 1/10/1944 - 461 Sqn)
    AUS417621 F/Sgt Percival Richard CRIDDLE RAAF (+ 1/10/1944 - 461 Sqn)
    AUS423267 F/Sgt George Lindsay TOOSE RAAF (+ 1/10/1944 - 461 Sqn)
    AUS418247 F/Sgt Patrick Hope BREWIN RAAF (+ 1/10/1944 - 461 Sqn)
    AUS426210 F/Sgt Maurice WILLIAMS RAAF
    AUS5594 F/O Owen Horsely LEWIS RAAF

    Comments/corrections, welcomed.

    Regarding AUS401999 (later O35246) Rodger NEWTON RAAF. Rodger was a foundation member of the RAAF Rhodesia Association, and also treasurer of the 461 Squadron Association. He was classified as an outstanding pilot. Unfortunatley, he passed away in May, 1988.

    Col.
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    Squadron 461, Royal Australian Air Force under command of RAF Coastal Command in Europe, in particular hunting submarines...... I also would like information on my grandfather who was lost over the Bay of Biscay. This is what I have on him from the book 'Conflict over the Bay'.......... 'On this same day 461 Squadron lost a Sunderland. Flying Officer CR Croft was off at 3.03 am, but at 9.53 base picked up a call that they were under attack by 3 Ju88,s. After an anxious 27 minutes came the message that they were safe. 45 minutes, however, the drama reopened with the receipt of a message that 3 enemy aircraft had found them again, this time there was no safe call, the Sunderland going into the sea at position 4621/1135 at 11.03 am.' .......... My grandfather was Cedric Croft. I do know the Sunderland was a highly feared aircraft by both German navy and Luftwaffe..... bristling with machine guns they could hold out against attacks and were nicknamed 'the flying porcupine' by the Germans due to the machine guns. It is said naval convoys felt safe when the Sunderland were escorting them overhead. If anyone has any information on my grandfather I would appreciate it more than words could express.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Irving View Post
    Squadron 461, Royal Australian Air Force under command of RAF Coastal Command in Europe, in particular hunting submarines...... I also would like information on my grandfather who was lost over the Bay of Biscay. This is what I have on him from the book 'Conflict over the Bay'.......... 'On this same day 461 Squadron lost a Sunderland. Flying Officer CR Croft was off at 3.03 am, but at 9.53 base picked up a call that they were under attack by 3 Ju88,s. After an anxious 27 minutes came the message that they were safe. 45 minutes, however, the drama reopened with the receipt of a message that 3 enemy aircraft had found them again, this time there was no safe call, the Sunderland going into the sea at position 4621/1135 at 11.03 am.' .......... My grandfather was Cedric Croft. I do know the Sunderland was a highly feared aircraft by both German navy and Luftwaffe..... bristling with machine guns they could hold out against attacks and were nicknamed 'the flying porcupine' by the Germans due to the machine guns. It is said naval convoys felt safe when the Sunderland were escorting them overhead. If anyone has any information on my grandfather I would appreciate it more than words could express.

    My grandfather served in 461 Sqn and knew Cedric well. I understand from researching my family history that my grandfather adopted Cedric's daughter Paula, though I do not recall meeting her.

    I saw Cedric's name inscribed at the Australian War Memorial in Canberra back in February. While there I also looked through the 461 Sqn Operations Record Book which you can also find online via the link previously provided. Do PM me at jweatherlake (at) gmail (dot) com

    James

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