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    On my Dad's RAF enlistment Form....it says under Employment: Ind.O.056.21 Dis, 123. Does anyone know what that means? Thanks
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    Pat

    My research on this subject suggests that the A.NNN.nn classification represents the following:

    The alpha character denotes the type of industry (eg ship-building)
    The NNN characters denote the trade (eg carpenter)
    The nn is a sub-classification of the trade (eg foreman, labourer, joiner) .

    I have yet to establish what the Dis. NNN denotes; I think it may be district (but the "jury is still out" on that element)

    I have been trying to get a complete set of classifications / sub-classifications from the National Archives for a number of years, but I have failed dismally and I only have a partial set; unfortunately, I have no information on your particular set of codes other than the 056 code seems to cover a wide range of manufacturing jobs.

    Sorry that I can't be any more help.

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    Thanks for your reply Pete. It's driving me mad not knowing what it means.

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    PeteT

    I hope you don't mind me interjecting here. You may have covered this if you have been searching for years but have you tried "occupational classification" in Discovery? If you refine the hit list to 1925-49 there are 4 or 5 pieces that seem to refer to occupational classification documents that existed at the time (ED526) in 1937 and 1941 from the Ministry of Labour. I think all this stuff was to do with "direction of labour" (the Essential Work Order) during the war; "green cards" and reserved occupations etc.

    Sorry if you've been there already

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    Steve

    Thanks for the feedback.

    I have copies of the indexes from the National Archive files for ED526 (Lab 173, 174, and 175), but I have yet to find the actual file which contains the complete trade code listing along with all its sub-classifications. I have it for the building trades and coal mining, but not for the other trades.

    I also only have a partial list of the industry codes, built up from various sources.

    I haven't given up yet and any input is always welcome as this question keeps popping up on various forums and it is frustrating that there isn't a complete answer anywhere.

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    Hi Everyone....Just wondered if anyone had any more ideas on what the abbreviations for Employer: Ind.O.056.21 Dis, 123 means. Also he was previously in the Merchant Navy so why wouldn't his Enlistment Form say anything about that???? Very frustrating.

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    Pat

    I still haven't had much luck putting together a list of these codes, but I have made some progress.

    I can now help out with your 056.21 element which = Garage Mechanic or Motorcycle Fitter / Mechanic but I can't help with the "O" and I have yet to establish what the DIS codes relates to (District / Disposal?)

    Does this tie in with the knowledge you have regarding your father?

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    - Aircrew Training (Basic / Trade / Operational / Continuation / Conversion)
    - The History of No. 35 Squadron (1916 - 1982) (https://35squadron.wordpress.com/)

    [Always looking for copies of original documents / photographs etc relating to these subjects]

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    Thankyou Pete. For Civil Occupation on his RAF enlistment paper it says 'Motor Fitter', so that fits. My 'brickwall' is that my Dad was in the Merchant Navy before he joined the RAF. However...there is no record of him in the MN...and we have looked everywhere. So I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned on his Enlistment Form...would that be the norm? Am I daft to think that surely somewhere on his paper it would have said 'previously in Merchant Navy'? ...or words to that effect.

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    Hi Pat,
    Have you searched the National Archives online catalogue for your fathers name? There are extensive records there of merchant seamen in the BT series of files.

    http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...dvanced-search

    If you try it it, use variations of the name (such as both 'John' and 'Johnathan', 'Tom' and 'Thomas' etc.) and you may find more detail.

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    We have his Medal Card Record from TNA. He was awarded the 1939/45 Star and the Atlantic Star. However, there is no record to be found for him being in the MN during WW2.

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