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    Default Sqn Ldr John Harding, RAFVR (Met Branch)

    Hello All,

    This is another of my single LG Commissioned entries in the RAFVR (Met Branch):-

    METEOROLOGICAL BRANCH.
    John HARDING (142626) to be Sqn. Ldr. (emergency), 1st Apr. 1943.


    He was part of the great Commissioning of Met Office Forecasters on 1 Apr 43. The time and his rank would seem to indicate that he was relatively senior, and was still in UK. He has 'previous':-

    THE LONDON GAZETTE, 11 DECEMBER, 1936 8035
    UNDER CLAUSE 8 OF THE GENERAL REGULATIONS.
    Air Ministry: Technical Officer in the Meteorological Office, John Harding.


    So it's likely to be the same bloke? All I'm asking is that you put a 'mental sticky' on your computer screen so that whilst you are trawling for info on your dedicated subject(s) if you should come across him in some Station ORB you might remember to give me a shout!

    TIA

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    same source as before.

    Air Ministry - Technical Officer June 1938 AFL
    Hythe Civil Aerodome - Technical Officer May 1939 AFL
    work mates listed as

    G J W Oddle
    P J Meade (noted also as F/O RAFO)
    S Proud

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    Ross,

    Thanks that!

    Geoffrey Jasper William Oddie (note surname spelling - LG reader not operating at its best!) made Wg Cdr by the end of WW2.
    Pat Meade made Gp Capt in ACSEA (I was a lowly minion in his post-war Met empire at one stage).
    Stanley Proud was KOAS as Flt Lt S Met O (+ 2 ORs) on SS Toronto City (one of the 'Panther' ships) when it was torpedoed by U-108 at 47N 30 W on 1 Jul 41.

    Tks again

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    My pleasure,

    I opted for Oddle but it could just as well be Oddie - the page photo is not the best resolution.

    Put a shout out to Malcolm to see what the Confidential AFL has for him post May 1939.

    It may list where he went when the war closed down civil aerodromes.

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    Ross,
    He's not on the Met Office War Postings teleprinter signal. But that was because that signal was merely posting the Defence Services staff. What they (the Met Office HQ) did with the civil aerodromes staff we do not, yet(!) know. Some of the civvy aerodromes became RAF. Some of the staff were posted to/from RAF stations.
    If Malcolm is on the circuit and L/O, can he comment?
    TIA
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    He won't be found in any ORB, Peter.

    John Harding - born 1911
    1936 - 1937 - Joined the Met Office and training (Croyden).
    1937 - 1939 - Foynes then Hythe (Southampton).
    1939 - 1948 - Mostly at the Central Forecast Office, Dunstable (alongside C K M Douglas)
    1948 - 1955 - Deputy C Met O, Middle East (Ismailia)
    1955 - 1960 - Wyton
    1960 - 1966 - Assistant Director General Services (Dunstable and Bracknell)
    1966 - 1973 - Assistant Director Agriculture & Hydrometeorology (Bracknell)
    OBE 1972
    Retired 1973
    Died mid-1980s

    (Source: Meteorologist's Profile in Weather: July 2000)

    As an aside; the S Proud in Ross's list was the senior meteorologist on the SS Toronto City. Deployed in a weather reporting role the ship was sunk by U-108 with the loss of all hands on 1 July 1941 (http://www.rmets.org/sites/rmets.org...2014-booth.pdf)

    Edit. Although he is listed as being commissioned he was never actually mobilised; instead he remained in a civilian post after 1 April 1943.

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    Last edited by Lyffe; 11th March 2016 at 19:24. Reason: Additional info

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    Ross/Brian,
    Thanks for that info. Another string of alphanumerics becomes a 'person'!!
    Rgds
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    John Harding OBE, was my paternal grandfather.

    I just happened to be researching family tree when I spotted this thread!

    Bill

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    Bill, Hi - and welcome to the forum!

    Can you confirm/add/deny/clarify anything on the foregoing posts?

    TIA

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    The extensive article in Weather (as cited by Brian) is a very good resource and explains his rank in the RAF and his work with Douglas in the run up to D-Day. You can see it here - click on the 'get PDF' link at the bottom.

    Here's a picture of him at work

    Article on his retirement in 1973 is on page 34 of the Meteorological Magazine (Vol. 102, No. 1212, July, 1973):


    Hopefully all those links work. He was a very talented man and it's great to see people are interested in him.

    Bill.

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