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    Default F/Sgt Bernard Thomas UTTING 1333681 died 31.03.44

    Hi All,

    Does anybody know the circumstances of the death of this airman?

    Killed in action serving with 9 Sqn 31.03.44 reported in Flight 22.06.1944 P.678.

    Many thanks.
    Rol

    I forgot to put his trade he was an Air Gunner.
    Last edited by Roundhead; 3rd May 2016 at 14:55. Reason: More info.

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    Hello,

    From T Mason's "9 Squadron", p.66:

    An attack on Nurnberg on 30th March (1944), was intercepted by German fighters and a number of combats was reported including that of Plt Off R. H. Craig. His crew claimed hits in the enemy fighter but Sgt D. V, Smith was wounded. in Plt Off H. Forrest's aircraft, the mid-upper gunner* was killed; in spite of this the pilot manoeuvred the aircraft and shook off the aircraft after jettisoning his bombs.

    * Undoubtedly 1333681 F/Sgt (Air Gnr.) Bernard Thomas UTTING RAFVR.

    Gordon Thorburn in Bombers First and Last (pp.196-7 & 392), identifies the aircraft as Lancaster ED502:WS-V, but ED502 was lost attacking Duisburg on 9/10-4-1943!

    Need the ORB.

    Col.
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    Quote Originally Posted by COL BRUGGY View Post
    Hello,

    Need the ORB.

    Col.



    IX (B) Sqn's ORB's are available on their Sqn Association website. Rather large to download (c.96 Mb for 1944's ORB), but yes, it confirms F/S B T Utting was killed by a nightfighter attack on P/O H Forrest's a/c, Lancaster DV395. It doesn't say exactly when or where that took place, but says that after jettisoning the bombs the a/c 'continued on track over the target' and returned within the main bomber stream.

    Ian
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    Quote Originally Posted by ianh View Post
    IX (B) Sqn's ORB's are available on their Sqn Association website. Rather large to download (c.96 Mb for 1944's ORB), but yes, it confirms F/S B T Utting was killed by a nightfighter attack on P/O H Forrest's a/c, Lancaster DV395. It doesn't say exactly when or where that took place, but says that after jettisoning the bombs the a/c 'continued on track over the target' and returned within the main bomber stream.

    Ian
    Many thanks to Col & ianh for the information, I have found more from Martin Middlebrook's Book 'The Nuremberg Raid' P.150 Lancaster DV395 was attacked near the beacon 'Ida' Pilot P/O H Forrest - Rear Gunner Sgt B Pinchin I've not found the rest of the crew yet.

    Many thanks to all,

    Rol

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    Hi Rol

    Full crew list given in the ORB - please see my previous note.

    Ian

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    Quote Originally Posted by ianh View Post
    Hi Rol

    Full crew list given in the ORB - please see my previous note.

    Ian

    Hi,

    Thanks ianh have downloaded the ORB.


    Rol

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    Hello,

    Here is the Combat Report from Thorburn's, Bombers First and Last:

    SECRET No.9 Squadron Combat Report.
    Place: 50.30N-08.40E.
    Time: 00.37hrs.
    Height: 20.000ft.
    Speed: 155 RAS.
    Course: 082 T.
    Target: Nurnburg.

    The rear gunner sighted a Ju88 at 250 yards starboard quarter down and gave the order Corkscrew Starboard. The E/A developed the attack from the position where it was first seen but did not open fire, The rear gunner fired about 500 rounds. The E/A was not seen to break away. Soon after our aircraft had resumed course it was attacked and damaged by an A/C which only the pilot saw as it broke away to port low down. He identified it as a Ju88 and clearly saw the green camouflage and black cross on its wing. During the attack the M/U Gunner was hit and died of his wounds during the trip. neither of the gunners fired during this attack as they did not see the E/A. Continued on track over target and returned in concentration.

    Weather: 3/10 cloud. Half moon approx. Good vis.
    Searchlights: Not exposed on the A/C.
    Damage to own A/C: Two holes about 2ft square, one just forward of the Elsan, the other just aft of the MU turret. Pipe lines in the rear turret severed and a fire occurred. This was put out when the A/C went into a dive after the second attack. The leading edge of the starboard tailplane was hit and the starboard side of the fuselage aft of the MU turret was holed several times.
    Damage to E/A: None claimed.
    M/U Gunner: F/Sgt Utting did not fire.
    R Gunner: Sgt Pinchin 500 rounds.

    Col.

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    My Grandfather Sgt FM Crossman was mid upper gunner on P/O Forrest's crew but only did one trip to Schweinfurt 24 Feb and was replaced as gunner. Forrest's log book is held at the Liverpool University's Art and Heritage Collections - photo of the interior of WS-V ED502 and the exterior along with Forrest and his crew (minus Utting) is attached at:

    Interior - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7...EFfalVTM2xmZXc

    ED 502 exterior - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7...2M1bnd2ZHlIUDQ

    Forrest crew - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7...TlVVUVheXBsTDA

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