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    Default Accidents at 5 (C) OTU - 1941

    Hi

    Further to my thread on 'Waverers' I am trying to identify three crashes the person may have been involved in during training.

    There appear to have been three fatal accidents involving Beauforts during the period in Question: -

    1 Dec 1941 - N1044
    7 Dec 1941 - W6478
    28 Dec 1941 - N1086

    Each of these resulted in three fatal casualties but as the Beaufort carried a crew of four were they all flying with one crew member short or was there a survivor from each aircraft?

    If so does anyone know the identity of the survivor(s)

    There were also two, probably, non fatal accidents involving Beauforts, namely: -

    26 Nov 1941 - L4495 - forced landing near Chivenor
    18 Dec 1941 - L9949 - overshot landing at Chivenor

    Does anyone know the names of the crews of these aircraft?

    Finally there was also a Lysander, V9819, lost on 16 Dec 1941, was the flying solo or did a passenger survive?

    All the best

    Malcolm

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    N1044
    P/O R W Hopkins RAAF
    P/O R Masters
    Sgt G Boyle
    Sgt R A Smart

    Smart died form injuries on 3rd.

    The No.5 OTU ORB is notable in only listing pilot and this mirrors the Form 1180 information so no more from these sources on the other aircraft.

    AHB unless you are prepared to trawl through the ORB for the specific name you are looking for to see if there is a oblique mention.

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    Malcolm

    N1044 I have the fourth crew member as 1325468 Robert A Smart who died of injuries 3/12/41.

    N1086 I have four fatalities for this one, 89823 Isted PH, Sinclair GG, Robinson E & Baker FC. Subject to confirmation.

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    Malcolm

    N1086:

    At 1530hrs Bristol Beaufort I N1086 of 5 (Coastal) Operational Training Unit, from Chivenor, Devon. returning from a training sortie with the port engine stopped. The plane crashed at South Coombe Farm, Stokeclimsland, 1 mile West of Stokeclimsland Police House. The aircraft was completely burnt out and all four occupants were killed.
    Crew:
    P/O Philip Hastings Isted 89823, Pilot
    Sgt G G Sinclair, 931093 Observer
    Sgt F C Baker, WOp/AG
    Sgt E Robinson (W.Op/Air Gunner)

    Source: http://www.devonheritage.org/Places/....RAFGraves.htm

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    Hi All

    Certainly doesn't look as though my airman was involved in the accidents to N1044 and N1086.

    I'd not connected Smart originally and I actually did have four casualties on N1086 not three.

    It's beginning to look like he was may have been influenced by the crashes rather than actually being involved in them.

    Cheers

    Malcolm

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    Whilst on the thread of 5 (C) OTU accidents in 1941, is there any information on LAC William Soady 907647 who died on 13th October 1914? I'm reasearching him for our war memorial at Looe, Cornwall. I see that P.O. Frank Redfern J/5109, of 5 OTU died on the same day.

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    Hello Dave, and welcome to RAFCommands. Just to tidy up a point, should that be 1941?

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    CWGC records him as William Raymond Soady aged 24, and Free BMD has W R Soady, died aged 24, death registered Barnstaple, Sept-Dec 1941 quarter.

    Casualty Communique No. 93 in Flight magazine, December 4th 1941 lists him as Killed on Active Service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Welch View Post
    Whilst on the thread of 5 (C) OTU accidents in 1941, is there any information on LAC William Soady 907647 who died on 13th October 1914? I'm reasearching him for our war memorial at Looe, Cornwall. I see that P.O. Frank Redfern J/5109, of 5 OTU died on the same day.
    Hello,

    No.5(C) OTU lost Beaufort I L9951 on 13-10-1941. It crashed in a forced-landing after engine failure, 2m N of Braunton, Devon.

    Col.
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    I have been looking into a crash locally, where the ORB and the 1180 just name the pilot, 10/10/1941, H H Nettleton. how likely would it be that he was flying alone, or are there other casualties?

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    N1044
    P/O R W Hopkins RAAF
    P/O R Masters
    Sgt G Boyle
    Sgt R A Smart

    Smart died form injuries on 3rd.

    The No.5 OTU ORB is notable in only listing pilot and this mirrors the Form 1180 information so no more from these sources on the other aircraft.

    AHB unless you are prepared to trawl through the ORB for the specific name you are looking for to see if there is a oblique mention.

    Ross

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