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    Default Informations about 11/22/1943 - Berlin Raid

    Does anyone have informations concerning the Berlin Raid of November 22nd 1943. Which RAF Bombardment Group were involved ? Which where the NJG which defended Berlin ? Any records from any survivor of the raid ?

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    Hello ,

    Nighfighters from NJG 1 , NJG 3 and NJG 5 shot down bombers from 7 Sqdn , 405 Sqdn , 44 Sqdn , 103 Sqdn and 106 Sqdn ( Nachtjagd War Diaries by Dr Theo Boiten page 302/303 )
    According to Bomber Command Losses 1943by WR Chorley also aircraft from 51 sqdn , 75 sqdn , 78 sqdn , 83 sqdn , 97 sqdn , 101 sqdn , 102 sqdn , 115 sqdn , 156 sqdn , 158 sqdn , 166 sqdn , 214 sqdn , 218 sqdn , 419 sqdn , 428 sqdn , 434 sqdn , 467 sqdn and 622 sqdn were lost on this raid.

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    Thanks ! We can add one bomber from the 100th Squadron. Thank you very much !

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    Hello ,

    If you want some more info's out off these books please let me know.

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    78 Squadron's contribution to this raid was 17 Hallifax of which 2 returned early, one due to a failure of the oxygen system and one due to severe icing. The crews who reached Berlin reported 10/10 cloud and fires which could be seen for 70 miles (heavy damage in Charlottenburg and the Tiergarten area). Although the night fighters were about it was flak which damaged one of the 78 Sqn aircraft; EY-U was seriously damaged in the target area but Flight Lieutenant Roy Martin managed to coax the bomber back to UK and lost control of it when trying to crash land at RAF Coltishall. The bomber crashed at Beetson Park, the Flight Engineer, Stan Bird and the Bomb Aimer, Ron Blackwell were killed in the crash and Martin and his Navigator Gordon Salmon died of their injuries.

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    Hi,
    158 Sqn also sent 17 Halifax's to Berlin on the raid, two returned early. One bomber piloted by F/Sgt M W Skelton was hit by flak around midnight but was able to return to base where his bomber was found to be riddled with shrapnel holes. One bomber was lost when it was shot down near Meppen. HR977 came down with only the Canadian Mid-Upper Gunner surviving (Sgt K H Williams) who spent the rest of the war in a pow camp. The remainder of the crew (all English) are buried in Reichswald War Cemetery.

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    Hello ,

    N 44 sqdn sent that night 16 aircraft to Berlin , three a/c got lost:

    Lancaster DV329 flown by F/lt Hill was shot down by Lt Schnaufer from 12./NJG1 near Cloppenburg , those who died were buried at the Reichswald War Cemetery , one man got POW Sgt PB Kirwan.

    Lancaster LM373 flown by P/O Buckel , all the crew buried Berlin War Cemetery.

    Lancaster LM-374 flown by P/O Hanscombe , all the crew remembered on the Runnymede memorial

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    Default Berlin raid, 22-23/11/1943

    Hi VV

    I don't know whether you can obtain a copy but have you got, or seen, Martin Middlebrook's "The Berlin Raids"? It contains about 6/7 pages on this particular op.

    From my own notes, 214 Sqn sent 7 Stirlings to Berlin that night, and lost 1 of them. That one, EF445 coded 'BU-J' piloted by F/S G A Atkinson, was damaged and came down in the North Sea. Two of the crew including F/S Atkinson were killed but the other five were picked up by Air Sea Rescue launch the following afternoon.

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