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    I hope anyone can help with confirming the following locations of which the spelling might be incorrect which I have been unable to find and which countries for these Hurricane accidents and if possible names of pilots involved if known?.

    HL961 225 sqn Massicane 3.12.42
    HM133 135 sqn Whailyang 11.3.43
    HV435 2 IAF Barkakekarra 4.1.42
    HV469 151 OTU Pubbi 10.2.43
    HW878 ADU Pirgani 26.11.43
    KW707 241 sqn Bir Bougmehba 2.7.43
    KX146 87 sqn Marsela 8.10.43
    KZ190 291 sqn Eastchurch, Yorkshire or Kent? 28.6.44
    KZ493 ADU Takurka 31.8.43
    LB668 34 sqn Sadawi 21.2.45
    LD300 28 sqn Tetzami 18.4.44
    LD379 SLAIS Pisca 20.6.44
    LD407 9 FU Doveli 16.6.45
    LD828 2 IAF Mumbar 23.1.45
    LE400 6 sqn Arsa Bay 20.4.45
    LF101 151 OTU Hanzakot 10.1.45
    LF273 4 IAF Tennyo 9.1.45

    Any help appreciated, thanks
    Last edited by Jagan; 8th August 2016 at 23:49. Reason: Merged various Hurricane Fates Threads into one for better search/management

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    Hello,

    Hurricane HW878 - ADU - Pirgani - 26-11-1943. Pilot: AUS413097 F/S Russell Keith PRECIANS RAAF - injured - location - Firozpur, India. NFD.

    Col.
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    Following are India/Burma based losses from your list

    HV435 2 IAF Barkakekarra 4.1.42 -
    2 Sqn wasnt on Hurricanes in 1942. They converted only in Sept 1942. Can you double check the date?

    HV469 151 OTU Pubbi 10.2.43
    1943-02-10 Hurricane Plt Offr Philip Walter LOMAX* 61525 151 OTU Crashed into Ground making mock attack on Audax during exercise dest http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/ca...HILIP%20WALTER

    LD300 28 sqn Tetzami 18.4.44
    1944-04-19 Hurricane IIC F Fg Offr D A B McPHERSON C25630 28 Sqn LD300 Jorhat Detailed for recce of Kohima Jessami Road with F/O R J Garrett as wingman. at approx 10.15 hours, McPherson failed to return. REturned to unit on 5/5. He crashed 1.5m N of Tetzami and ac wrecked. Pilot unconscious for six hours. Rescued by Nagas. Escorted to lines over next ten days by trimbesmen. Then another 41 miles to Sokami. Ref ORB May 44 Injured

    LD828 2 IAF Mumbar 23.1.45
    23-Jan-45 | 12 | Hurricane | F | Fg Offr | Harbans Singh* | 2 | Mambur | 1730 Hours crashed during slow roll over base returning from sortie. |

    LF101 151 OTU Hanzakot 10.1.45
    1945-01-10 12 Hurricane II c Plt Offr Chunnilal Ray (IND/2899) 151 OTU LF101 Cr Hanzakot Lat 34.25 Long 72.15 dived into ground vertically at high speed

    LF273 4 IAF Tennyo 9.1.45
    09-Jan-45|12|Hurricane IIC|F|F Sgt|L E Landamore||4|LF273|Madhubania

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    Jagan and Col

    Thank you ever so much for that brilliant cheers, that has sorted some long outstanding queries.

    Jagan 4.1.42 is the date I have according to Air Britain HA-HZ file
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    Hello,

    Re: Hurricane LD300 - 28 Sqn. McPherson's wingman was 136551 F/O Robert Joseph GARRATT RAFVR (later DFC).

    Col.

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    Default Hurricanes displayed at "Wings for Victory" weeks 1943

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    Bit of a long shot this one but I am wondering if anyone can identify please some Hurricanes that were exhibited at various "Wings for Victory" weeks in 1943.
    The information is taken from the ORB of 71 Maintenance Unit, Slough

    3.1943 ? 1 Hurricane from Slough to Brentwood and later Bishops Stortford
    5.1943 1 Hurricane to Braintree, 1 to Bishops Stortford (possibly same one as mentioned above?)
    6.1943 1 Hurricane to Slough, 1 to Bedford, 1 to Beaconsfield, 1 to Thetford

    Any help appreciated
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    Continuing with the Hurricane theme can anyone please give me any information about these - some conflicting information regarding these serials.

    N2334 or P2812 - any details welcome please on which aircraft Sgt Pyne was flying believed to be one of these two in May 1940 when shot down?.

    Z2394 - a Malta aircraft but apparently lost on the 14th February 1943 is this date correct and if not what was the aircraft's real Fate?.

    Z3554
    - history of this aircraft is confusing it's listed as Malta, 73, 134, I have also seen it mentioned as with 250 and the OADU it is mentioned as
    (reported as ditched off Sicillian coast 27th June 1941 en route Malta Sgt D R O'R Sherburne ok) is this correct as I have it listed as SOC 27th October 1944.

    BE495 - 245 Squadron, is mentioned as engine cut at night and abandoned over Andover, Hampshire 31st July 1942 crashing at St.Mary Bourne but is also listed as force-landing at Friston on the 19th August 1942 with P/O C L Gotch so clearly not the same aircraft, any clues on this?.

    BN126 - missing presumed shot down by Bf.109 near El Alamein 30th August 1942 pilot Sgt J F J Montgomery but also listed as collided with Hurricane BN359which is correct?.

    HV874 or HW874 - spun into the ground at Mauripur, India 25th March 1944 which one is correct?.

    LD102 or LD182 - crashed during manufacturer test flight 16th July 1943 which is correct? aircraft was repaired.

    My thanks
    Information intended for future use in a possible book regarding production histories of Langley Hurricanes so greatly received.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COL BRUGGY View Post
    Hello,

    Re: Hurricane LD300 - 28 Sqn. McPherson's wingman was 136551 F/O Robert Joseph GARRATT RAFVR (later DFC).

    Col.
    Hi Col Bruggy, may I ask where you go this information from? It's very interesting. Robert Garratt was my grandfather and I am currently sat here with his flight log book with record of this flight!

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    Hello James, and Welcome,

    Take a look at Jagan's Post#3. He mentions that one F/O R G Garrett was McPherson's wingman. His source is the 28 Squadron ORB. It was an purely a guess on my part stating that 136551 F/O R J Garratt was McPherson's wingman.

    To confuse things more; Chris Shores, in "Air War For Burma" (p.220), states - Sunday, 7 May 1944 -
    Four Hurricanes of 28 Squadron took off soon after 0800 led by Flg Off R J Garrett to undertake an offensive reconnaissance over the Kohima area again weather was poor, and over the target area Garrett turned to find that his wingman was no longer with him. Flt Sgt N Sinclair-Hills HV970 had been seen to dive abruptly at a 75 degree angle, and he did not return.

    Then there is this!

    GARRATT, Robert Joseph. F/O. (136551). RAFVR. 28 Sqn. London Gazette: 2/6/1944.p.2534.

    In air operations, this officer has displayed skill, courage and determination worthy of much praise. He has completed many difficult and dangerous sorties and has set an example which has impressed all.

    See:Carter&Carter/DFC/I/A-L/610.

    Where there two Garrett/Garratts on 28 Squadron at this time?

    Care to tell us what your grandfather's log book has to say?

    Col.
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    Thanks Col for the info. I am 100% sure there was just one Garratt in 28 Sqn. His logbook is extremely interesting and there are a number of photos including one of the whole 28sqn and also of my grandfather flying in a Hurricane over Burma. My grandfathers log :

    7th May 1944 - Hurricane Mk2 C. BP704. - Tac/R Kohima Area - Landed Bimapur - Nigel Sinclair-Hill Missing (no.2) - I actually have a photo of him flying the plane on this day!

    19th April 1944 - Hurricane Mk2 C. LD172 - Tac/R Kohima - Kalami - Jessaki - No mention of McPherson here.

    However, I have an entry on the 10th April stating that McPherson (no2) forced landed and walked back!

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