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    Hello everyone

    The Newcastle Evning Chronicle of June 28th 1943 reports the award of the British Empire Medal to a Flight Sergeant Arthur Hall:

    BEM awarded to Gateshead airman
    The award is announced of the British Empire Medal to a 22-year-old R.A.F. “veteran,” who has been serving since he was 15½. He is Flight-Sergeant Arthur Hall, son of Mr. and Mrs. A. Hall, of 113, Whitehill Road, Gateshead. Last year he was mentioned in despatches for distinguished service.
    Nothing is yet known in Gateshead as to how he earned his latest distinction.
    Flight-Sergeant Hall was a pupil at Gateshead Secondary School, and later went into the R.A.F., and has flown in raids on Italy and Greece, as well as ferrying planes to Russia.
    Flight-Sergeant Hall served in France at the beginning of the war.

    I'm having trouble tracking down F/S Hall's award on the London Gazette website (no surprise there...), nor is he listed on the RAFweb.org list of R.A.F. B.E.M. awards. Can anyone help with any details of the elusive Sgt Hall?

    Many thanks,

    Simon

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    Hello,

    Possibly:

    568732 Sgt Arthur Richard HALL RAF.

    MiD - (1-1-1943) https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/35841/page/47 (see also p.35).

    BEM(M) - (1-1-1945) https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/.../supplement/41 (see also p.35)

    Dates don't fit, but he is the only one I can find!

    Col.
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    Thanks for the reply Col, and taking the time to have a look-see.

    Yes, the dates aren't quite right, and isn't the service number from January 1926 Aircraft Apprentices?

    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...ervice-Numbers

    That would not be right if he was 22 in 1943 - assuming I'm reading that right, of course!

    I'm thinking he maybe had another first name, and Arthur was his middle name, or indeed they'd mis-reported his christian name - Alfred or Albert?

    Regards

    Simon

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    Simon, (et al),
    Whilst waiting for something else to happen this afternoon I played on Excel with some of your figures.
    The Aircraft Apprentices block 560001-579999 (i.e. 20,000 numbers/bods) ran from Jan 1926 to Aug 1944 (i.e. c.226 months). Applying 1st Form maths that works out at c.88 issues a month. Adding 88 to 560001 sequentially brings you to a putative issue date of 568732 at around Sep/Oct 1933 (ignoring all ‘real’ variations!).
    So, if your man was 22 in 1943 (according to the newspaper) then he must have been born in 1921? He would have been 15 (min age for Halton AAs) in 1936?. It might all just fit??
    BUT – bear in mind the old adage “There are Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics”!!!!!
    £30 and 10 weeks waiting time will tell!!
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    Simon,

    To satisfy your curiosity, here is a listing of all the Halls awarded a BEM(M) in WW2. Source: Michael Maton/ Honour The Air Forces:-

    568732 Sgt Arthur Richard HALL RAF - 1-1-1945
    955634 LAC Edward George William HALL RAFVR - 22-8-1944
    R51596 F/Sgt Elgin Clyde HALL RCAF - 1-1-1946
    1436050 F/Sgt Harry Ernest HALL RAFVR - 12-11-1943
    571114 Cpl Kelita HALL RAF - 11-6-1942
    W304430 Cpl Mary Laura HALL RCAFWD - 13-6-1946
    955361 Cpl Norman HALL RAFVR - 13-6-1946
    568522 F/Sgt Surtees Gibbs HALL RAF - 17-9-1943
    535488 F/Sgt Thomas HALL RAF - 14-3-1944

    Col.

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    Thank you once again Col, very much appreciated. Still just the one likeliest candidate, even allowing for the date discrepancy of the newspaper article and the award date.

    Probably find out now it was a completely different award now...!

    Regards

    Simon

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    For what it is worth:

    568732 Sergt. Arthur Richard Hall, 1657 HCU - BEM 1/1/45.

    "This airman is a Fitter II employed in the Daily Servicing Section. He has willingly worked very long hours to maintain a high serviceability of aircraft. On a night in May, 1944, when a Stirling aircraft was shot down by an enemy intruder and crashed in flames into a hangar, Sergeant Hall showed great courage and initiative in saving from the hangar two aircraft and a quantity of valuable equipment."

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    Still not convinced, I thought I'd try some lateral thinking.

    Flight Magazine of June 10th 1943 has the award of the B.E.M. to a Flight Sgt A. Hale. So, leading on from that, the London Gazette of June 2nd 1943 has a B.E.M. award to 568327 Acting Flight Sergeant Arthur Hale. It's most odd that his service number has the same first three numbers at Arthur Richard Hall, and the same last three in a different order...!

    There's an Arthur Hale whose birth is registered in Gateshead in the September 1920 quarter.

    Simon

    EDIT - the Newcastle Evening Chronicle of July 5th 1941:

    Coming of Age
    Congratulations to Arthur Hale on his 21st birthday, July 5th, eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. Hale, 313 Whitehill Road, Gateshead, now serving with the R.A.F.


    So, apart from his surname and parent's address, the original article was 100% right - on behalf of the Chronicle, apologies for the duff gen, and thanks to all who have replied.
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