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    Default Puzzles .9 Sqd / 115 Sgt F/Sgt WF Crampton

    I have a puzzle hopefully some one may have the Answer .

    Wellington W 5703 9 Sqd went down on a Op to Koln 26/27/8/41 , Full story i have , but one crew member who evaded was Sgt William F Crampton Nav he got back to UK from Gibralter by Air to Pembroke Dock on 8 Jan 1942

    Now i have a F/Sgt William Francis Crampton 988755 Air Observer MID remembered at Runnymede who was lost without trace on the First 1,000 bomber Raid Wellington Z1614 115 Sqd 31/5/42 .

    Is this the same Man ?? .can anyone confirm !!!!!

    would welcome any ideas or help . Thank you all

    Phill Jones

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    Phill,

    Oliver Clutton-Brock's "RAF Evaders" confirms same man.

    Dave

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    Phill

    Looks like he is the same chap:

    The Manchester Eveing News of November 29th 1941:

    Believed Killed, He is Now Safe
    Missing, killed, safe
    This sums up the story of an Earlestown airman, Sergeant-Observer William Francis Crampton (24), of Sankey Cottages. In August of this year he was reported missing, and shortly afterwards his young wife had official intimation that he was reported killed.
    She did not go into mourning, neither did her relatives, because they held hopes that he would be safe. They received a telegram this week that he was alive. Later a telegram came from Sergeant Crampton from a Gibraltar hospital.


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    The Manchester Evening News of June 8th 1942:

    "Back from Dead" Airman Missing
    Officially reported missing is Sergeant-Pilot William Francis Crampton (25) of Sankey Cottages, Earlestown. Sergeant Crampton was reported missing in August of last year, and his young wife was later informed that he had been killed. Later she was notified that he was alive and in hospital.
    His wife told the Manchester Evening News today that she had good hopes for her husband's safety, as she had learned that he had baled out from his aircraft.


    Regards

    Simon

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    Dave and Simon ,

    Thank you very much indeed for your prompt replies Puzzle Solved Rgs Phill

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    Hello Phill,

    Can you tell me what was the cause of the loss of W5709 on 26/27 August 1941, was it mechanical failure? And is it correct that the aircraft crashed at Niederdonven/Luxembourg?

    Cheers, Theo

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    Hello Theo,

    W5703 (serial according to Chorley) crashed in France, in the Cambrai area. S/L H.E. BUFTON, captain, Sgts K.B. READ and W.F. CRAMPTON evaded capture. evasion reports in WO 208/3307, respectively reports 610, 626 and 627.

    They confirm engine trouble before reaching the target but managed to bomb. Troubles got worst on the return leg.

    HTH

    Joss

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    Hello,

    Regarding Crampton's evasion, the following might be of interest:

    http://www.conscript-heroes.com/Art1...-Party-960.htm

    For useful comments by Bufton, Crampton and Read, a look at Gordon Thorburn's, Bombers First And Last (pp.58-9), will fill out a bit of detail ie; Sq/Ldr H E Bufton: We had engine trouble just before reaching the objective but were able to unload our bombs. Shortly afterwards one engine caught fire and the other seized. We accordingly baled out over Catillon (Nord), fifteen miles south east of Le Cateau. (p.58)

    Col.

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    Hi ,

    I confirm the details as correct with my notes Sgt JT Stickles RCAF (R66077 Later Comm J38647 , Sgt S Murray and Sgt RP Wright Taken POW , Sgt Stickles was sent to Stalug Luft 3 and returned Home in 1945 . Sgt Murray and Wright NFD . after being taken POW .

    S/ldr Bufton , Sgt Crampton and Sgt Read evd , Both S/Ldr Bufton and Sgt Crampton awarded MID 1/1/43 and Sgt Read MID 11/6/42, but cannot say for sure whether these were awarded for evading capture ?

    Thank you to you all for your Comments

    Rgs Phill Jones

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