Map location for a crash in Scotland 1939.

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  1. Martin Gleeson said:

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    Hello,

    Could anyone please give me a location for map reference 778271 on Ordnance Survey Sheet No. 64 ? The location is in Fife, Scotland and the period was October 1939. Is there an online tool that I could use to find this location and others ?

    Regards,

    Martin Gleeson.
     
  2. Ross_McNeill said:

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    One Inch series.

    National Library of Scotland digital archive holds zoomable copies

    http://digital.nls.uk/directories/br...fm?id=74536130

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  3. JimCorbett1977 said:

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    Hi Martin,

    If this is a wartime map reference then I use http://www.fieldenmaps.info/cconv/cconv_gb.html

    You would need to know the Cassini grid zone, which is either qO or qP for Fife.

    Enter your map reference and zone into the War Office Cassini ('WOFO') Grid, click convert, then look in the Great Britain National Grid section for the present day reference.

    If is a modern day reference then I use Bing Maps and switch the view to Ordnance Survey using the drop down menu in the top right corner.

    Jim
    Last edited by JimCorbett1977; 29th September 2016 at 19:23.
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  4. Martin Gleeson said:

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    Ross and Jim,

    Thanks very much for your help. All new to me. I tried both 'qO' and 'qP' with the grid reference. As I wanted to see the location on an online map (e.g. Google Earth) I used the WGS84/ETRS59 section for Latitude and Longitude, then found those co-ordinates on Google Earth for my location and it seemed to work. The 'qO' seemed the correct one.

    regards,

    Martin.
     
  5. alclark said:

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    Martin, if you use http://www.echodelta.net/mbs/eng-translation.php it will plot the result on google maps, I suspect it it qO as that plots in Fife (if you are sure that is where the crash occurred). From where it plotted is it Hudson N7227 10-10-1939?
    Alan Clark

    Peak District Air Accident Research

    http://www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk/
     
  6. Martin Gleeson said:

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    Hi Alan,

    That works perfectly for me. Many thanks.

    Yes, it is Hudson N7227 on 10-10-39. I found a line in the Leuchars Appendices (AIR 28/465) that it had crashed "at Ladybank". However this seemed quite far from the accepted crash location south of Freuchie. I found that map reference in Errol Martyn's 'FOR YOUR TOMORROW', Vol. 3 (the pilot was a New Zealander). The sites supplied by you and Jim both show this this map reference to be south of Freuchie, so that seems settled.

    Great resource, thank you very much.

    Regards,

    Martin.
     
  7. Pierre Renier said:

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    Hi Martin

    Just to add to everyone’s contributions, here’s a link to the actual map series http://library.mcmaster.ca/maps/ww2/...and_ndx63k.htm , all you need to do is click on the relevant sheet and you’ll be able to see on a map printed in 1940 the area you’re looking for.

    Regards
    Pierre
     
  8. wwrsimon said:

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    The Scotland's People website Statutory Deaths Register has the location of the deaths of the crew listed as 'The Drums, Freuchie', and the time as 7.40 p.m.

    Regards

    Simon
     
  9. alclark said:

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    The Squadron ORB also records Freuchie as where the crash happened, Ladybank isn't that far to the north so I can understand the station ORB recording there, though near Glenrothes would have been better.
    Alan Clark

    Peak District Air Accident Research

    http://www.peakdistrictaircrashes.co.uk/
     
  10. wwrsimon said:

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    The modern OS Map on Bing Maps has two places with the name Drums near Freuchie: Nether Drums, about 750m SW of Freuchie just off the A912, and Drums, about a further 500m SW of that.

    Simon