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    Default Wing Comm. Frank Porter RNAS/RAF OBE, Wing Comm. Keith Alan Porter RAF.

    The following thread is from the RAF Commands archive. I'm fairly sure this is my great-grandfather and I have a wooden propeller blade with the RNAS logo and 2 aerial photos of the canals at Zeebrugge c.~1917. He flew with T.E.Shaw (Lawrence) in the Middle East. His son, Wing Commander Keith Alan Porter, advised the Air Ministry on air safety after WWII, was involved in the development of Heathrow and later developed Speke airport (now John Lennon airport). The OBE is missing presumed lost or stolen after my great-aunt passed away. I have many letters, diaries and photos from both men, some of which are over 100 years old.

    Research Material
    Author: Wing Comm. Frank Porter RAF OBE (Guest) and
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    11:03:00 10 December 2005
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    I am researching this Officer. He had a very interesting career.He was born 22nd August 1889 in Ulveston, Lancashire.
    From the Royal Marines in 1909, to retiring in 1944 as a Wing Commander in the RAF I only have a brief outline of him with some paper-work, Any information would be very welcome.
    Thank you.
    Brian


    RE: Research Material
    Author: Ross_McNeill
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    12:41:57 10 December 2005
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    Hi Brian,

    13227, Porter, Frank
    Signals Branch, Qualified Observer Course, Qualified Specialist Signals Course
    F/O 01 April 1918
    F/L 01 July 1929
    S/L 01 April 1937
    W/C 01 September 1940
    Regards
    Ross


    RE: Research Material
    Author: HughAHalliday
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    14:17:50 10 December 2005
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    Given that his OBE was awarded as of 1 January 1941, the recommendation for this award will most likely be found in the PRO/National Archives; see

    AIR 2/2489 (New Year Honours List: awards for flying services in peace time, 1937-1960)
    AIR 2/6268 (New Year Honours List: 1942; higher awards 1941)
    AIR 2/6269 (New Year Honours List: 1942; non-operational commands lower awards, 1941)
    AIR 2/8887 (New Year Honours List, non-operational commands and Air Minustry, 1941) I suspect this is your best bet.


    RE: Research Material
    Author: HughAHalliday (Guest)
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    16:43:01 10 December 2005
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    Many thanks to you also Hugh, and for your quick response.

    Regards
    Brian


    RE: Research Material
    Author: Ross_McNeill (Guest)
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    16:41:15 10 December 2005
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    Hello Ross,

    Many thanks for the info. This will make a good start for me
    Regards
    Brian


    RE: Research Material
    Author: Pete (Guest)
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    09:21:49 11 December 2005
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    Took the liberty of cross posting this, a bit on his Marine life for you-

    I haven't found him as a Royal Marine in the London Gazette so cannot
    imagine he had a commission he also does seem to appear in the 1913 Navy
    list there is only one Frank Porter there as Superintending Clerk in the
    Navy Accounts Department
    There are a number of entries for a Frank PORTER in the RAF in London
    Gazette
    London Gazette 33513 2/7/1929 Flying Officer to Flight Lieutenant
    London Gazette 34385 2//4/1937 Flight Lieutenant to Squadron Leader
    London Gazette 34949 20/9/1940 Squadron Leader to Wing Commander
    London Gazette 35029 31/12/1940 confirmed OBE
    There is no probate published in the London Gazette for him
    There is nothing I can see on the CWGC Site
    The earliest Globe & Laurel(RM Regimental Magazine)I have which is January
    1930, not even a mention of a sorry to lose you so I do not know
    And there is no mention of him in my collection of RM Histories, nor on the
    databank I have compiled
    Pete


    RE: Research Material
    Author: Pete (Guest)
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    10:29:59 11 December 2005
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    Hello Pete, Your info will help me a great deal. I have a photo copy of his RM enlistment dated 2nd November 1909. With a listing for Deal and finally Chatham where he appears to have served all of his RM career, before his transfer to the RAF.

    For a man who had such, experience and a talented career, I wonder why he should retire at the early age of 55 ?
    Thank you for your help Pete,
    All the best ,
    Brian


    RE: Research Material
    Author: Pete (Guest)
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    09:31:51 12 December 2005
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    I think 55 is normal service retirement age. Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratcliffe View Post
    The following thread is from the RAF Commands archive. I'm fairly sure this is my great-grandfather and I have a wooden propeller blade with the RNAS logo and 2 aerial photos of the canals at Zeebrugge c.~1917. He flew with T.E.Shaw (Lawrence) in the Middle East. His son, Wing Commander Keith Alan Porter, advised the Air Ministry on air safety after WWII, was involved in the development of Heathrow and later developed Speke airport (now John Lennon airport). The OBE is missing presumed lost or stolen after my great-aunt passed away. I have many letters, diaries and photos from both men, some of which are over 100 years old.
    Mick Davis, editor of the Journal of Cross & Cockade International - the First World War Aviation Historical Society, would no doubt be most interested to learn more about any WWI letters by Frank Porter. His email is editor@crossandcockade.com

    Errol

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