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    Default Blackburn Dart N9811 'Coded' 61

    The aircraft is a photo that was published in The Sphere - Saturday 17 May 1930

    You can see it here

    "1920s Royal Navy HMS Courageous Blackburn Dart N9811 Aircraft Crash RP Postcard "

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1920s-Roya...UAAOSwMVdYFGhP

    The Sphere provides more of a date clue - But can anyone pinpoint the exact date as before 17th May 1930


    WAITING RESCUE 1,000 Miles from Land in the MEDITERRANEAN SEA
    This astonishing picture was taken when a Blackburn torpedo 'plane made a forced landing in the Mediterranean, 1,000 miles from terra firma, during Fleet exercises. Despite the fact that the machine is de signed to run along the deck, and is not fitted with pontoons, she stayed on the surface for a considerable time. The buoyancy of both the wings and the petrol tank will keep a machine afloat on a calm sea for many hours. The pilot has only to take care that he is not shot over the under -carriage on his forced landing and to await rescue on the tail.



    Thanks Paul

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    Interesting piece of reporting, vis "WAITING RESCUE 1,000 Miles from Land in the MEDITERRANEAN SEA". Is there actually anywhere in the Med much further than 150 miles or so from land?

    The British tabloids of today obviously have a precedent for their version of reporting the facts...

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    Hello,

    Wingspan (UK). January, 1996. (No.131) p.23.
    "Down in the drink"

    Photo caption reads:

    The pilot waits patiently for rescue after his Blackburn Dart (N9811) was forced-landed on the water, 26 June, 1929. (Notes: A/C has a shadow-shaded white? # "61" , on a light-coloured fuselage band).

    One of the other shots in the set - "73"

    This might help:

    Aeroplane Monthly. December, 1976. pp.652-3.
    Personal Album.

    Caption to photo number 3, reads:

    The caption 'Picking up Boozy's ship", tells us that the unfortunate pilot of the Blackburn Dart Torpedo-Bomber N9817 was none other than Lt Byas*, later to become CO of 803 Squadron aboard the "Hermes" and affectionately known as, 'Boozy' Byas. N9817 is recorded as having sunk in the Mediterranean in 1931 - presumably the incident depicted. (Notes - a/c has a light-coloured number "73" on the fuselage).

    * Later Cdr Cyril William BYAS RN (S/L, RAF) - http://uboat.net/allies/commanders/422.html

    Darts from either, No.463 (Fleet Torpedo) Flight, or No.464 (Fleet Torpedo) Flight/ HMS "Courageous".

    Col.
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    Hello,

    Bit of background info on these shots (which are identical to the E-Bay offerings).

    Aeroplane Monthly, August, 1975 pp.402-3 - Personal Album.

    Our selection this month features Fleet Air Arm aircraft of the 'thirties;. probably operating from HMS "Courageous", and was chosen from a collection sent in by Mr Gerry Beauchamp of Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. The photographs once belonged to an unidentified FAA pilot, but are now the property of Mr Harry Buckley, also of Ottawa.

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    Aeroplane Monthly. December, 1976, pp.652-3 - Personal Album.

    For our selection this month we present a further assortment of 1930's Fleet Air Arm aircraft, probably aboard HMS "Courageous", contributed by Gerry Beauchamp of Ottawa, Ontario. Other pictures from this collection, once the property of FAA pilot George Eady, and now belonging to Mr Harry Buckley of Ottawa, appeared in our August 1975 issue.

    Round and round we Go! Gerry Beauchamp, is of course, the author of, "Mohawks Over Burma".

    Col.
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    Thanks as these are "well known" shots with multiple sources they probably were taken by a Navy Photographer which were then given / sold ?? to crew and external agencies so that's why they turned up in newspapers on postcards and in personal collections

    Paul

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    Byas was attached to RAF until August 14 1931, so can only have been involved in N9817 incident,

    He looks to have re-joined Navy earlier

    FLIGHT, MAY 22, 1931

    NAVAL APPOINTMENTS
    The following appointments were made by the Admiralty :—
    Lieutenants (F.IO., R.A.F.): C. W. Byas, R. A. Kilroy, H. D. Barlow,
    and C. A. Kingsley-Rowe, to Victory, for 402 Flight.



    He ditched Swift (Pobjoy K) G-ABNH off the Coast of South Africa in late Oct 1931 when he attempted to fly it "home".

    I suggest the incident the was around Summer 1931
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    Byes appears red herring. FAA Sqns 1920 1939 Air Britain which I only just had access to says

    N9811 463 Flt Courageous Cat W 26-6-29 Capt JM Fuller TN Picked up by boat from HMS Viceroy. Engine failure force landed and sunk Mediterranean

    N9817 464 Flt Courageous Seagull flew into propeller after take-off and crashed in sea of Greek coast Cat W 28.6.29, salved Lt (F/ORAF) NHM Nangle RN

    looks like a busy 2 days

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    I wonder if N9817 was rebuilt and subsequently written off again in 1931 and that is why Byas linked?

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