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    i HOPE SOMEONE WILL FIND THESE OF USE , I HAVE A LIST OF THESE NO'S AND DATES WERE AVAILABLE TAKEN FROM THE UNIT ORB

    If anyone can add to the missing ones please let me know , tia phill jones
    53 OTU COURSE NUMBERS AND DATES
    Dates Taken from ,AIR 29/691 Unit ORB for 53 OTU ,
    No 53 OTU , (Spitfire), Was formed at HESTON under ESTABLISHMENT NO, WAR/FC/278. Comprising 67Officers,&742 Airmen.

    The Establishment of Aircraft was Spitfire27,I.E & 9,I.R.Masters ,10,I.E.& 4,I.R.
    It was however intended for the time being that the unit, would work at half strength only the ultimate destination of the unit was LLandow,South Wales ,and the date of removal to Llandow was fixed as the 1st April 1941 .
    1/ No 1 Course –IN, 10/3/41,-OUT-21/4/41.
    2/No 2 Course –IN ,11/4/41,-OUT-27/5/41.
    3/No 3 Course –IN,28/4/41,-OUT-10/6/41.
    4/No 4 Course-IN,?,-OUT-?, DATES NEEDED .
    5/No5 Course-IN ,9/6/41-OUT-,22/7/41.
    Note- 24th /6/41,B,Flt,53 OTU,To Llandow ,South Wales .
    Main Party 53,OTU ,to Llandow ,1/7/41.
    6/ No 6 Course –IN ,15/7/41-OUT-,25/8/41.
    7/ No 7 Course –IN ,4/8/42-OUT-,14/9/41.
    8/No 8 Course- IN,23/8/41-OUT-,6/10/41.
    9/No 9 Course- IN ,16/9/41-OUT-,?, DATE NEEDED.
    10/No 10 Course-IN ,7/10/41-OUT-,?, DATE NEEDED.
    11/No 11 Course-IN,?-,OUT-,15/12/41,DATE NEEDED.
    12/No 12 Course-IN,?-,OUT-,?, DATES NEEDED.
    13/No 13 Course-IN,16/12/41-,OUT-,?, DATE NEEDED.
    14/No 14 Course-,IN,?-,OUT-,17/3/42 ,DATE NEEDED.
    15/No 15 Course-,IN,?-,OUT-,28/4/42,DATE NEEDED.
    16/No 16 Course-,IN,17/3/43-,OUT-,19/5/42.
    17/No 17 Course-, IN,7/4/42-,OUT-,9/6/42.
    18/No 18 Course-, IN,28/4/42-,OUT-,?,DATE NEEDED.
    19/No 19 Course-,IN,19/5/42-, OUT-,?,DATE NEEDED.
    20/No 20 Course-,IN,9/6/42-, OUT-,?/8/42, DATE NEEDED.
    21/No 21 Course-, IN,?-,OUT-,22/9/42,DATE NEEDED.
    22/No22 Course -, DATES NEEDED.
    23/No23 Course-, DATES NEEDED.
    24/No 24 Course-, DATES NEEDED.
    25/No 25 Course-, DATES NEEDED.
    26/No26 Course-, DATES NEEDED.
    27/No 27 Course-,DATES NEEDED.
    28/No 28 Course-, DATES NEEDED.
    29/No 29 Course-, DATES NEEDED.
    30/No 30 Course-, DATES NEEDED.
    31/No 31 Course-,IN?-, OUT-,25/5/43,DATE NEEDED.
    32/No 32 Course-,IN-, 13/4/43-,OUT-,22/6/43.
    33/No 33 Course-, IN-,1/5/43-, OUT-,10/7/43.
    Note , From 1/5/43-9/5/41 , 53 OTU moved from RAFLLANDOW to RAF KIRTON LINDSEY.
    34/No 34 Course-,IN-,25/5/43-,OUT-,3/8/43.
    35/No 35 Course-,IN-,22/6/43-,OUT-,7/9/43.
    36/No 36 Course-, IN-,13/7/43-, OUT-,27/9/43.
    37/No37 Course-, IN-,3/8/43-,OUT-,26/10/43, (see Note below).

    2/10/43, within the ORB OF 53 OTU ,the following is worth mentioning .
    Cypher message received from H.Q F.C .,Regarding surplus day fighter pilots,& varying policy regarding OTU’S as follows ,
    1/Current course extended to 12 weeks,
    2/Intake reduced to 25 per course.
    3/56OTU,58OTU,become Holding units to be known as COMBAT TRAINING WINGS, in which pilots who have graduated from OTU’S, But cannot be absorbed into SQUADRONS, will continue ADVANCED TRAINING.
    Course’s EX ,56&58 OTU’S ,to be distributed among 53,55,57,59&61OTU’S,The distribution will mean approx 24 Additional Pilots for the units to be divided among first ,second and third phases of training according to Pilots ability.
    150 Pilots EX OTU, to be posted by Group to each of 56 & 58 Now renamed NO1 AND NO2 COMBAT TRAINING WING.
    5/10/43 Following on HQ FC ,SIGNAL,(REC 2/10/43),INSTRUCTIONS received from 9 GROUP, To post
    60 Pupils,(ex course’s),to No2 CTW,Grangemouth.This absorbs all the outstanding pupils,(33,34,35,&36 course’s ),except RCAF Personel ,who are still attached to PRC BOURNEMOUTH.
    Further signal received from HQ,9 GROUP,Posting 13 Pupils from 40 Course at Grangemouth,into 37 course at this unit, Also 22 Pupils from 41 Course at Grangemouth to be amalgamated with No38 Course at this Unit.
    These additional 35 Pupils ,bring the total at this unit to 101 all,in two course’s
    This Necessitates immediate Re-organisation of flying planning , The system to be adopted is that for the next 3 weeks there will be an AUXILIARY ADVANCED TRAINING SQUADRON ,at HIBBALDSTOW, Under S/L ? –COMPRISING the balance of
    No 38 Course-30 of which will be transferred to the ADVANCED TRAINING SQD ,at KIRTON LINDSEY ,on completion of intermediate training .
    In accordance with HQ FC ,Instructions ,No 37 Course extended ONE WEEK ,Passing out on 26/10/43.
    No 38 Course, Extended a further 3 WEEKS ,until 30/11/43.
    6/10/43,
    ,35 pupils ex Grangemouth arrived at this unit allocated as follows ,
    A flt-7 Officers 4 SGTS,
    B flt -7 Officers 4 SGTS,
    E flt -2 Officers 5 SGTS,
    F flt- 2 Officers 4 SGTS.
    No 38 Course divided among A,B,C,& D flt’s
    No 37 Course consist’s of 2 flt’s,of 22 & 21 pupils.

    38/ No 38 Course -, IN -, 7/9/43-,OUT-, 30/11/43. Actual date was 14/12/43.
    39/No 39 Course -, IN -,26/10/43-,OUT-,21/4/44.
    40/No40 Course-, IN-, 23/11/43-,OUT-,22/2/44.
    41/No41Course-, IN-, 21/12/43-,OUT-,4/4/44.
    42/No42Course-, IN-, ?-, OUT-,14/2/44. DATES NEEDED.
    43/No43Course-,IN-,14/2/44-, OUT-,23/5/44.
    44/No44Course-,IN-,14/3/44-, OUT-,23/5/44.
    45/No45 Course-,IN-,4/4/44-, OUT-,12/6/44.
    46/No46 Course-,IN-, 23/5/44-, OUT-,24/7/44.
    47/No47 Course-,IN-,13/6/44-,OUT-,14/8/44.
    48/No48 Course-,IN-,4/7/44-, OUT-,5/9/44.
    49/No49 Course-,IN-,22/8/44-,OUT-,31/10/44.
    50/No50 Course-,IN-,12/9/44-, OUT-,21/11/44.
    51/No51 Course-,IN-,3/10/44-,OUT-,19/12/44.
    52/No52 Course-.IN-,31/10/44-,OUT-,22/1/45.
    53/No53 Course-,IN-,21/11/44-,OUT-,26/2/45.
    54/No54 Course-,IN-,19/12/44-,OUT-,10/3/45.
    55/No55 Course-,IN-,16/1/45-, OUT-,27/3/45.
    56/No56 Course-,IN-,20/2/45-,OUT-,23/4/45.
    57/No57 Course-,IN-,12/3/45-,OUT-,12/5/45.
    58/No58 Course-,IN-,3/4/45-,OTU-,12/5/45.
    59/No59Course-,IN-,24/4/45-,OUT-,12/5/45.
    TRAINING CEASED OWING TO CLOSING DOWN OF 53 OTU,15/5/45,DISBANDED
    PUPILS OF NO’S,58 &59 COURSE’S ,WERE ABSORBED INTO HOLDING UNITS NOW FORMED AT KIRTON LINDSEY .53 OTU ,COURSE NUMBERS AND DATES
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    Hello Phil,

    It is a good idea similar than the same of Steve Brew about OTU57.

    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?2775-57-OTU-Course-Numbers-and-Dates-1940-1945

    Many Free French trained at OTU53. You can add course n29 from 9/2/43 to 12/3/1943.

    Bertrand

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    Bertrand , thank you for you input duly noted , i would welcome any names you have of Free French Pilots who went throught 53 OTU if you have the time and dont mind sharing ?

    many Thanks and I hope you have a good XMAS AND NEW YEAR

    RGS PHILL JONES

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    Free French Roger SIMON (30195) followed course n11 between 29 october 1941 up to 15 december 1941

    Bertrand

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    Hello... thank you for researching presenting this information. As part of my ongoing research on Pilot Officer John Gillespie Magee, Jr., RCAF, I am looking for as much detail as I can about No 7 Course at No 53 OTU. I believe that this is the Course that Magee took.

    I have tried the National Archives without success, and it seems that you have the ORB for this unit. Would it be possible to get a copy of the No 53 OTU ORB for the period of No 7 Course (4/8/41 - 14/9/41)? I would be greatly appreciative!

    Ray Haas


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    I HOPE SOMEONE WILL FIND THESE OF USE , I HAVE A LIST OF THESE NO'S AND DATES WERE AVAILABLE TAKEN FROM THE UNIT ORB

    If anyone can add to the missing ones please let me know , tia phill jones
    53 OTU COURSE NUMBERS AND DATES
    Dates Taken from ,AIR 29/691 Unit ORB for 53 OTU ,
    No 53 OTU , (Spitfire), Was formed at HESTON under ESTABLISHMENT NO, WAR/FC/278. Comprising 67Officers,&742 Airmen.

    7/ No 7 Course IN ,4/8/42-OUT-,14/9/41.
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    Hi Phill,

    53 OTU Llandow n11 course : in 1/11/1941 ; out 13/01/1942. 20 Free French pilots

    Bertrand

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    Hi Bertrand , thank you for your mail , and your Input
    bw phill

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    No18 course 53 OTU, From my Fathers Log book I have 01/05/1942 - 30/06/1942 (the dated stamp on his final assessment for that course.

    Hope this helps. :)

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