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    Default David Harrison FREELAND (979399) wedding with WAAF Sgt Peggy FREELAND

    Hello

    I'm looking for help about F/Sgt D.H. FREELAND, a Whitley pilot from Belfast, who married a WAAF, Peggy, maiden name unknown.

    "Harry" FREELAND was KIA in September 1942, and was an only son. So we're trying every tiny track we can to know more about him. I can't easily access the genealogy sites from France, so any help is welcome.

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    Joss

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    Joss

    Can't find any family trees with him in on ancestry.co.uk, but as he's from Northern Ireland, the Will Calendar Index is available free online via the P.R.O.N.I. website:

    http://apps.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_...tsDetails.aspx

    His birth was registered in Belfast, June 1916.

    The newspaper archive on FMP has several entries for his death in the Belfast newspapers. These are under Irish newspapers, as opposed to British, and I don't have a wordwide subscription, but the previews have the following:

    The death is reported in action of Flight-Sergeant David Harrison Freeland, R.A.F.. the only son of Mr. and Mrs. David Freeland. Jackson Hall, Craigavad. His wife is [a] sergeant in the W.A.A.F.


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    I have searched FMP and the England / Wales and Scottish BMD records but unfortunately I can't find the marriage. From Northern Irish Papers I have gleaned the following snippets which just might be of some help. His Mother's first name was Helen. He had attended Sullivan Upper School and then Coleraine Academical Institute where he was on the Rugby team. He is subsequently reported to have plaid Rugby for Northern Ireland. He was a former captain of the 70th Belfast Company (Ballygilbert) Boys Brigade and a memorial service for him was held by the Boys Brigade in Ballygilbert Presbyterian Church Craigavard at 5.30 pm on Sunday 1st November 1942.
    Best of luck J

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    This is a real mystery..

    I cannot find a Marriage for a David Harrison Freeland in Northern Ireland in the time frame I even checked GRONI

    Marriages are only viewable 75 years on GRONI so that takes me up to 1940 or 1941 - So

    There was a marriage in April 1935 between a David ALEXANDER Freeland to a Jane McWha (possibly Joan/Jean) on April 17th 1935 GRONI says Jane BUT THIS IS NOT OUR Freeland


    FREELAND—M‘WHA. At Ballywalter Presbyterian Church yesterday the marriage was solemnised of Miss Jean M'Wha, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. James M'Wha. Whitechurch. Ballywalter, and Mr. David Alexander Freeland, younger son Mrs. James Freeland, The Crescent, Newtownards, and the late Mr. Freeland. Rev. George Heron, B.A., assisted Rev. Robert Huston, 8.A., officiated ...

    Thursday 18 April 1935, Northern Whig, Antrim, Northern Ireland

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    OK Best Guess

    S FREELAND (nee Mcdowell) #888936

    Note one newspaper says "His wife is sergeant in the W.A.A.F. " and others quote "Peggy"


    Later MiD and Flight Sgt 1 January 1946

    Based on...

    David Harrison Feeland 979399 -> 965000 to 1149977 Sep 1939 Padgate

    Note: Peggy is a female first name (often curtailed to "Peg") derived from Meggy, a diminutive version of the name Margaret
    only two below have Margaret' in name an we can eliminate one

    I went though all female Freelands on Air 78 and if you look at marrieds

    Aydrey Cynthia Elsie Freeland 2007070 Nee Shearing -> Now Freeland Married 1944

    Frances Lena Freeland 2140319 - No Nee NOT Married

    Hilda Margaret Freeland 2120876 Nee Poole -> Now Freeland Married 1947

    Isobella Kane Haley Freeland 2039595 - No Nee NOT Married

    Margaret Eillen Amy Freeland 2089356 - No Nee NOT Married

    Martha Freeland 2115446 - No Nee NOT Married but too late 2100000 to 2199999 2179999 Aug 1942 WAAF Enrolments by I of R

    Pamela Ann Freeland 2838263 NOT as DOB 14 April 1942


    Pauline May Raby Nee (Freeland) 488264 - No Married Dec 1944

    However....

    There is a

    S Freeland 888936 Nee McDowell -> NOTE: Says 18 Co Ulster

    Sarah Freeland 2119571 <-- too late 2100000 to 2199999 2179999 Aug 1942 WAAF Enrolments by I of R


    If we assume Born UK

    - Sarah Mcdowell 1912
    - Selina McDowell 1915
    - Stella Mcdowell 1920


    MID 1 January 1946

    Flight Sgt
    888936 S. FREELAND

    WOMEN'S AUXILIARY AIR FORCE.


    WAAF Serial Numbers ranges

    880000 to 897999 Mar 1939 WAAF -> early



    430001 to 440000 439999 Mar 1941 WAAF West Drayton, Harrogate, Bridgnorth
    440001 to 450000 Feb 1941 WAAF Gloucester
    450001 to 460000 Jun 1941 WAAF Gloucester
    460001 to 465000 Dec 1941 WAAF No 1 and 2 Dep
    465001 to 475000 Nov 1942 WAAF No 2 Dep
    475001 to 485000 Jan 1943 WAAF Gloucester
    485001 to 495000 Apr 1943 WAAF Glouceste

    2000000 to 2099999 2099997 May 1941 WAAF Enrolments by I of R
    2100000 to 2199999 2179999 Aug 1942 WAAF Enrolments by I of R
    Last edited by paulmcmillan; 30th December 2016 at 10:38.

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    Also

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    ello,
    I am searching for relatives of David Harrison Freeland, he was a Pilot with No 138 (Special Duty) Squadron R.A.F; and was killed on the 27th September 1942 when his Aircraft crashed in Northern France.

    I have traced the relatives of the other crew members but have been unable to find any other information about him until recently, I now believe that he was he was born in Londonderry in 1916 and that his mothers name was Helen (Nelly) Keith.

    Any information will be greatly appreciated


    http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=555505.0

    Born in Belfast area actually-

    Birth: David Harrison Freeland, Apr - Jun 1916, Belfast Registration District, volume 1, page 425.
    The birth certificate will list names of both parents. See here for ordering certificates-
    http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index...,433041.0.html

    Possible marriage- 1913 Co. Antrim David Freeland to Helen ? .
    9 Apr 1913 David Freeland married Helen Keith in Duncairn Presbyterian Church, Shankill, Belfast.

    PRONI Will Extracts- "Freeland David Harrison of Craigavad county Down flight sergeant R.A.F. died 27 September 1942 at Meville France Probate Belfast 26 July to David Freeland farmer. Effects 1180 0s. 8d."

    "

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    Hello

    Thanks Simon, John and Paul for your efforts.

    With Peter Green, of the family of Fred Green who was killed in action with "Harry" Freeland, we had been through many of the tracks you have suggested, but not as far as Paul in his last post. I had checked the AIR 78 file as well, and I'm inclined to think that Peggy enlisted in the WAAF Under her maiden name, and the card must be filed Under her maiden name, with a mention of her married name, and not filed in the Freelands' section. Peter has purchased "Harry" FREELAND's will and birth certificate, but we are stuck at this point, about the wedding, and no maiden name for his wife.

    Peter will try the Boys Brigade next week. We'll see.

    I hadn't understood he played Rugby at a high level. This also be a track to pursue.

    Thanks again for your help.

    Joss
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    On Air 78 two Cards produced one for each Name

    One would say Nee

    Other would say Now

    So Card 1
    Jones Nee Smith

    and Card 2

    Smith Now Jones

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    Hello

    Harry's wife was Sarah, so using Paul's input : S Freeland 888936 Nee McDowell -> NOTE: Says 18 Co Ulster

    MiD in London Gazette of 1st January 1946 Flight Sergeant 888936 S. FREELAND

    Still have to understand why her nickname was Peggy...

    Regards

    Joss

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    One small point -- there is no Northern Irish rugby team. Rugby is (and has always been) played on a 32-county basis in Ireland, so players can come from both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. The IRFU is the governing body. There are also four provincial teams, so if your man didn't reach the level of playing internationally, he could still have played for Ulster (which covers the six counties of Northern Ireland, plus Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan) though there have been very few rugby players from the latter three (Tommy Bowe being an exception).
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