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    Default Course number for training at Perth, Scotland

    Looking for the course number for the following:

    31 Oct 1938 to 12 Jan 1939 at No 11 Elementary Flying Training School, Perth.

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    Don't know if this is a help. No 8 course commenced 22/9/40
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    From old raf commands thread

    Would courses be re numbered on conversion from
    reserve status? Especially as in wartime the courses were being condensed to around 2 months by
    Late 1940


    "Training for the Royal Air Force began in June 1936 with No 11 Elementary and Reserve Flying Training School, operated by Airwork Ltd. Among the recruits of this period was one Neil Cameron who later became the Chief of Defence Staff and Lord Cameron of Balhousie as well as the first President of the Scottish Aero Club.

    The School became No 11 Elementary Flying Training School (EFTS) when hostilities commenced on 3rd September 1939 and there was no longer a Reserve. In the same month a service was established by British Airways between Perth and Stavanger using Lockheed 14s and JU52s of Swedish registration."

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    Thanks, Alan and Paul.

    Looks like it could have been No.9, assuming they ran 'nose to tail' in a single stream.

    Robert

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    Robert
    Course 8 was autum 1940

    You were asking about 1939!

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    Right! That's embarrassing. Thanks, Paul.

    Robert

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    If pre-war courses were arranged anything like wartime courses at EFTS's, SFTS, OTU's etc, then there could be several courses running simultaneously at any given time; for instance four courses at a time during WW2 was normal for SFTS's. and two for EFTS's. Depending on the stage of the war, this would mean a new course arriving every four or six week. However I could not state with any certainty that the prewar courses were similar in concept to wartime ones.
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    Guys,
    I have the ORB's for 11 EFTS, Perth if that is of help for 1940. They commence 1/1/1040, when it became an RAF establishment and explain in some detail events prior to this, when it was run by Airworks as described below, as a civilian training facility for the RAF, commencing in January 1936.
    I also have the ORB's for 51 Group Pool, the overriding administration unit for this and other EFTS's.
    Happy to help.
    My Father was there between October and November 1940, a few days over a month there before going on to 2 SFTS.
    Regards,
    Nick
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    Guys,
    Can i also add that i do know that no 8 Course was in 1938 as well.
    Just to add to the confusion.
    My Father was on No 32 Ab Initio course with 45 other pupils, which commenced on 5th October 1940. Remember, there were courses being run for different trades at Perth at the same time, for instance No. 7 AONS (Air Observer Navigation School) commenced at Perth in January 1939, closing on 31st May 1940.
    Regards,
    Nick
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    Thanks, Nick and David:

    Looks like there are too many unknowns in positively pinning down the course number.

    Robert

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