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    Can somebody please tell me how to attached an image to a post? I assume it's possible.

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    The image below [which I'm unable to attach] is of part of the BC Loss Card for Lancaster W5008, which was shot down over Nuernberg in the early hours of 28.08.43.

    I can make out most of the text, but would be very grateful for some help with a few words.

    In relation to Perry (mid-upper gunner) and Crowther (rear gunner), the text appears to say 'reported dead by German authorities, {…} reply received {...} time of a/c being abandoned, believed killed'.

    Is it perhaps 'up to time of ...'?

    As for the final line, I can make out the word 'not' and little else.

    Justin

    [IMG]C:\Users\JustinL\OneDrive\Armed Forces\RFC and RAF\Paul Albert Levy RAFVR\Bomber Command Loss Card 1.JPG[/IMG]
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    Hi Justin - if you have a photobucket (or similar) account you will be able to post images ok on here .

    rgds baz

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    Justin,
    The final line seems to have a word, followed by...not an eye witness.

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    Thank you both for taking the time to reply.

    I posted the same question (with the image) to my usual genealogy forum http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=762085.0

    The general consensus is that Sgt. May, the bomb aimer, believed that both the mid-upper and rear gunners had already been killed when he abandoned the aircraft. The other crew members were still alive.

    The final line has been deciphered as 'I was not an eye witness.'

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    Hi Justin

    To me it looks like it reads as follows. (Probably shouldn't have, but for a few words I've used what others have already suggested). Not sure if I have the names right, but:

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    Levy - reported d[ead?] by German auths [authorities] - alive when a/c abandoned.
    McKillop - [same by 'ditto' marks]

    Perry
    [and]
    Crowther [bracketed together] reported d by German auths - [ xx xx ] up to time of a/c being abandoned. Believed killed.

    Thomas
    [and]
    Lynn [bracketed together] [rep?] dead by German auths - alive when a/c abandoned.

    I was not an eyewitness

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    Seems to be along the lines of what you've concluded so far.

    Ian

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    The word "alive" above is different to *hot below.

    Thomas) rep. dead by German auths - shot when a/c abandoned
    Lynn)

    I also see *"hot" i.e. shot

    Dots on film can be dust, or particles on lenses.
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    Hi Mark

    To me, your "-hot" ("shot"?) for Thomas and Lynn looks the same as "alive" written further up for Levy's entry.

    ?

    But admittedly your reading could make sense: if they were previously wounded ("shot") and were seen as such by Sgt May at the time when he abandoned the a/c, but were later reported dead by the German authorities. Maybe either died of their wounds or were killed in the crash.

    Ian
    Last edited by ianh; 12th January 2017 at 14:19.

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