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    Default Aircraft Losses in SEAC (India, Ceylon, Burma) - 1st Update - Harvards and Hurricanes

    I have started a new section on the website - these are Harvard and Hurricane Losses in the SEAC - in erstwhile India, Ceylon and Burma

    As of now about 1200 Hurricane accident and incidents are available and about 120 Harvard accidents. The intention is to identify all the pilots associated with these losses.

    http://www.rafcommands.com/database/losses/

    Harvard Losses : http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...qacid=10&qt=TY 120+ records
    Hurricane Losses : http://www.rafcommands.com/database/...qacid=12&qt=TY 1100+ records

    The data comes from a vareity of sources - with thanks in no small measures to the Colin Cummings series - and the J J Halley books (RAF Serials and Aircraft Registries). Thanks also to various forum members who shared ORBs of SEAC Units to help populate more detail on these losses

    I know that the aircraft 'Marks' may be incomplete or incorrect. but feel free to post any corrections or additions on this thread

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    Jagan,

    I'll kick it off with the following:

    14-8-1944 No.4 Sqdn IAF. Hurricane IIC LD121 AUS405991 P/O (Pilot) Eric BALL RAAF +

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    Jagan,

    No listing on your DB for this airman:

    4-8-1944 2371 F/O Sundaram Jayaram No.9 Sqdn.IAF. Hurricane LD956 (needs checking) - Last reported position, between Akyab and Chittagong. My source states that his last contact with Cox's Bazar was on 2-8-1944!

    NB. I haven't got the later A-B serial volumes, you will need to check. All serials need verification.

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    Jagan,

    A query - for:

    15-12-1944 1884 F/O R S SHARMA 2 Sqdn. I have a date of death 5-12-1944 and a Hurricane serial - LD383. Tactical reconnaissance Kaladan Valley from Tinma (?) to Thayatubin (?) - never heard of these two locations!

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    Jagan,

    22-1-1945 2010 F/O L KUMAR - 2 Sqdn IAF - I have Hurricane LE559 for this loss. Last seen flying north-east. Last reported position 19.03N:93.?2E.

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    Jagan,

    No listing found on your DB for this airman:

    25-3-1945 2850 P/O Tejpal Raj Kumar - 9 Sqdn IAF. Hurricane KZ632. Dive-bombing and strafing Kyundaw, seen to crash. Last reported position, south of Kyundaw.

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    Jagan,

    For the following loss -

    3-4-1945 2866 P/O D B JOSEPH - 1 Sqdn IAF. I have Hurricane LD838, as opposed to LD842. Flying from Tulihal to Kumbhirgram. Last reported position, 25.06N:93.07E.

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    Jagan,

    Details I have for this Loss:

    15-5-1945 1751 F/O D. M. ENGINEER - 7 Sqdn IAF, Hurricane KE662. Last reported position 17.52N:95.35E.

    BURMA AREA - IND 1751 F/O. ENGINEER, D. M.

    The following information has been received from Govt. of India, War Department, in a letter to the Red Cross, SIMLA.

    "On the 15th May, 1945, F/O. D. M. ENGINEER took off in Hurricane K.E.662 to carry out an operational TAC/R, with F/Lt H. C. DEWAN, as the leader. The latter, before returning to base after attacking a boat load of Japanese, called out to F/O. ENGINEER to ascertain whether he was following, but there was no response. A report from 20 DIV., stated that a Hurricane force landed N.N.E. Henzada and was assumed to be the same aircraft. A subsequent report from the Township Officer, MONYO, revealed that one NG KYAW DUN, a Keren Christian,living in UDO village, found a wrecked plane. He removed the headgear of the dead pilot and found written on it, "DOLI ENGANEER". He removed the dead body and buried it in UDO village cemetery. While NG KYAW DUN was arranging for the burial, some men calling themselves members of the B.N.A., searched the plane and took away the dead pilot's effects, including his headgear. On returning to the plane after the burial, NG KYAW DUN found nothing in the plane and parts of the plane had been detached by somebody."

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    Jagan,

    Couldn't locate the following loss on your DB:

    14-2-1944 145680 F/O Alastair James TIDDY RAFVR - 258 Sqdn. Hurricane LA110 - Rhubarb Ops, Akyab - Missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COL BRUGGY View Post
    Jagan,

    A query - for:

    15-12-1944 1884 F/O R S SHARMA 2 Sqdn. I have a date of death 5-12-1944 and a Hurricane serial - LD383. Tactical reconnaissance Kaladan Valley from Tinma (?) to Thayatubin (?) - never heard of these two locations!

    Col.

    Col

    Well caught. the DoD is 5-12-1944 as per Form 541. Failed to return from a sortie down the Kaladan Valley. Intell reports crashed at Minthagaung.. sortie details says TINMA-THAYETTABIN. Sortie reached LETPAN PN1148. Last seen 1000 ft over LETPAN

    Now have to find out where LETPAN is


    Thanks also for catching the missing entries, I updated them checking the ORBs. the Indian Entries still need more detail, they are a leftover from my old database.


    tment, in a letter to the Red Cross, SIMLA.

    "On the 15th May, 1945, F/O. D. M. ENGINEER took off in Hurricane K.E.662 to
    On a secondary scan, the ORB Form 541 gives the aircraft number as PJ662.. sounds about right!


    Also, Minor Update to the index page - http://www.rafcommands.com/database/losses/ to make the querying of units a bit easier..!
    Last edited by Jagan; 19th March 2017 at 15:20.

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