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    Hello All,

    Now that the magnificently named Ragnar J Ragnarsson is no longer with us, does anyone know who the current “Iceland” expert might be?

    In a large number of HQ/AHQ Staff Appointments (from the various CAFLs) appears a Post named ‘Education’, or ‘Educational’. Most of these were post-WW2 and were dealing with Service Schools when Service Families went Overseas. Some (in Germany for example) had quite large ‘empires’!

    However, whilst looking (for something else) at the ‘wiring diagram’ for HQ RAF Iceland I noticed no Education post in 1943, but Education posts in 1944 and 1945. What were these guys doing? I doubt if Families would have been sent to Iceland in 1944, or 1945. Very strange!

    And another strange thing. Both the guys have their post-nominals printed in the CAFL. Both have their academic degree, and then ‘RAFVR’! Investigation shows they both had active RAFVR Commissions in the A&SD Branch at the time. Both, however, are shown as “Mr” in the CAFL.

    Does anyone know why their posts should have been, apparently, ‘civilianised’? Had they been de-mobilised?, or were their Commissions in some form of ‘dormancy’ (like many civilians in Germany during the Cold War).

    Interested in any comments and/or explanations! I have, by the way and on past occasions, tried to contact the Aviation Museum at Akureyi (both in English and in ‘Google Icelandic’!) - nil response!

    Peter Davies
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    Hi Peter

    Prior to WW2 the Education officers were all civilian 'teachers' but in the war they were given Acting (unpaid) RAFVR commissions.

    Director - Air Commodore
    Principal Education Officer - Gp Capt
    Grade I - Wg Cdr
    Grade II - Sqn Ldr
    Grade III (15th increment and above) - with but after Sqn Ldr
    Grade III (4th - 14th increment) - Flt Lt
    Grade III (1st- 3rd increment) - Fg Off

    However, the CAFL don't generally give the grade of the officer.

    There were two role for educational officers, admin and instructional and the latter was usually the education of serving airmen and preparing them for promotion exams and trade tests. EdOs had been employed at Halton, Cranwell and other training units since 1918.

    Malcolm

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    Malcolm,
    Tks for that!
    The 'A/Commission' (Unpaid) explains it all. That was, presumably, to make them "Servicemen" in Geneva Convention terms?
    It was possibly the same as the Dormant Commissions (and Dormant Enlistments for the non-Officer equivalent grades) the civilian Met Men had in Germany. When the Warsaw Pact rolled into NATO territory all the non-essential personnel/staffs, and their myriad dependants, would be recovered to UK(!!!!). The essential, remaining, staffs would go down to Stores, form an orderly queue, and get issued with uniforms, F1250 (which had been pre-prepared for them). Then, if issued with a personal side-arm, down the range to learn how to use it while the Spetsnaz got bored stiff with waiting around!!!!
    At least, that was the theory, so I was told!! And all pigs were cleared for take-off!!!!!!!
    Good job we never had to do it for real!!!!
    Peter Davies
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