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    Default Loss of Wellington in Irish Sea 18the or 19the August 1942

    I found an entry in the log book of a former Irish Air Corps pilot.
    The date is not very readable but could be 18or 19th August 1942 and states " Walrus , search for missing Wellington in The Irish Sea"
    Thanks for any help.
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    Tony K

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    Tony (et al),

    Has anybody looked at the possibility that it might be Leigh-Light Wellington VIII, HX482 of No 172 Sqn from Chivenor? RAFWEB puts it roughly in the right place/time!

    HTH

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    Tony (et al)

    It’s roughly 100 nm from Chivenor to the UK/Eire ASR responsibility change. If on an AS patrol then it could be that HX482 was on a westerly-ish heading from Chivenor. The Walrus could have been searching in an area where HX482 should have been? But 3 of the recovered bodies are buried in Killay – on the Gower Peninsular – indicating that either the crash was very shortly after t/o, or further out (in the Irish area of ASR responsibility - Ross might know where that was?) and the bodies drifted to Gower? Don’t know about the sea currents in them parts, but circumstantial evidence is beginning to build?

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    Wrong place - shot down by US tanker approx 1 mile off Scarweather Sands - in Swansea Bay within sight of Swansea, Port Talbot and Porthcawl.

    HX482 was discussed on the forum a few days ago
    http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/sho...Squadron/page2

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    Thanks Peter and Ross, I have a Wellington crash Z1172, 304 Sqn. in the Irish Sea on the 20-8-1942 from a posting by Ross 31-12-05.I am inclined to think that the Air Corps pilot wrote up his log book after a few days when he got back from Baldonnel to Rineanna (Shannon Airport) where the Walrus was based.
    Not sure if that happened with RAF Boys.
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    Hello,

    Have you considered the following loss:

    18/19 August 1942
    No.21 OTU
    Wellington IC R1345 'B' ('A' Flight)

    Airborne 2020, Moreton-in-Marsh, detailed for an I.R. and Bombing exercise at Radway. 'B' was routed, Base-Fishguard-Seagull Island-Calf of Man-St. Davids Head-Radway-Base. RAF Sealand passed a 3rd Class Fix, MBAR 2927, at 0031*, no contact since then. Aircraft in the area were warned to keep an eye out for the Wellington, but no sightings were made. Aircraft missing.

    R107000 Sgt (Capt./Pupil Pilot) Melvin Ralph DERRICK RCAF - Missing
    1208628 Sgt (Pupil Pilot) Herbert Ernest DRAKE RAFVR - Missing
    1014112 Sgt (Pupil Obs.) Arthur POGREL RAFVR - Missing
    AUS405459 Sgt (Pupil W.Op/Air Gnr.) Cecil Alfred WILLIAMS RAAF - Missing
    48954 P/O (Pupil Air Gnr.) Richard Albert CASTELL RAF - Missing

    All commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial - Castell's death recorded on CWGC as 18/08/1942, the others 19/08/1942.

    * Aircraft of 21 OTU, invariably contacted Sealand when on the Irish Sea Leg.

    Col.
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    Looks like the Wellington Col. Bardsey Area was mentioned.
    Thanks again.
    Tony K

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