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    Default F/Sgt Joseph E F Jean RCAF R/96956

    Hi, can anyone confirm which Squadron this pilot flew with please ? Both 425 and 426 are quoted in differing websites.

    Hugh Halliday's excellent research available at www.airforce.ca/wwii.php quotes 425 Sqdn. Where as Richard Koval's equally good research on www.rcaf.com/6group/ gives him as being with 426 Sqdn in a number of incidents in his "daily ops" list but at the same time as his DFC was awarded he quotes 426 Sqdn. Thus only one can be correct.

    Another query is, can anyone supply the names of his crew please. I know that his rear gunner was Sgt J Favreau RCAF who was injured in the events leading up to Jean's DFC. The others remain unidentified.

    My initial interest is that the then, F/Sgt Jean and crew had a mishap with a Lancaster at Wombleton's 1666 HCU on Christmas Eve 1943.

    Thanks in advance in the hope that the 1st question is easily answered, the 2nd may prove trickier and if anyone can help I would very much apprciate it, regards Rich Allenby

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    Hi Rich
    Could you check your source on the Lancaster mishap? According to Flying Training and Support Units since 1912- Ray Sturtivant and John Hamlin, 1666 HCU did not receive Lancasters until Jan 1945 and the unit disbanded in Aug 1945. The major Heavy a/c was the Halifax as operated in large numbers by No 6 Gp RCAF, for whom the HCU was set up in Jun 1943.
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    Rich. They flew with both squadrons, first with 426 and then 425 Sq. Here is the crew.
     Pilot: F/Sgt J. Jean R-96956
    Flt/engineer: Sgt E. Dacre 575275
    Navigator: F/O C. Gray J-14671
    Bomb Aimer: F/Sgt H. Lockett R-94472
    Wireless Operator: F/Sgt C. Elsey R-129030
    Mid upper gunner: Sgt G. Desjardins R-207492
    Rear gunner: Sgt J. Favreau R-194221
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    Hi Rich

    1679 HCU arrived at Wombleton with Lancasters on 13/12/43 and disbanded there passing its aircraft to 1666 on 27/1/44 so it may have been one of their a/c that was struck

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    Default Jean RCAF

    Hi all, thanks for these quick replies.

    yes, my type error, 1679 HCU was the Unit the aircraft was involved at Wombleton.

    Richard, thanks for clearing up the query about who was in his crew. So was Jean with 426 Sqdn when his award was gained but with 425 Sqdn when he was actually received it ?

    Thanks to all again, regards Rich

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    According to the most excellent Chorley's publication on HCU losses, J. Jean and crew were lined up and the end of the runway on Dec 24,1943 to do a training flt while at 1679 HC flt. The stbd inner caught fire and could not be extinguished. The crew vacated the Lancaster, DS-624, it rolled onto the grass and burned.
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    many thanks, Rich

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    Rich. It seems that Jean ( mostly French Canadien crew) were posted to 426 squadron initally, into their tour, it seems a trade was made, Jean crew went to 425 Sq and the Selfe crew who were with 425 Sq were posted to 426 Sq.

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    Richard. Thanks for the explanation. Im not doubting either your info or that of Hugh's but there must have been a logical explantion for the differences and your answer seems veasable.

    Thanks Rich

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