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    I am currently researching a Flight Engineer, possibly of German or Jewish descent, who flew with 78 Sqn and was shot down and captured on the night of the 23/24 September 1943. The Sqn ORB and Chorley's "Bomber Command Losses" both confirm his service number and the spelling of his name. Chorley does not list him in the Appendix as being a POW or repatriated, yet he does list him as POW in the text. The published POW lists do not show him under his given name but under what appears to be an 'anglicised' version.

    The gentleman in question is 1614247 Sgt R L SCHELSHER RAFVR he is shown as Sgt R L SHELSHAR in the POW records.

    Can anyone shed any light on what happened to him after Dulag Luft, I can't see him spending the rest of the war there.

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    Daz

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    Daz

    I have found a few snippets, which may be of interest:

    Air 178/142 has his full name as 1614247 Ronald Leslie Shelsher (although it could be Sheslmer or Shelsner - it's a bad photocopy), just to add to the variations!

    However - and I'm not sure if you have these already - the following newspapers have these reports:

    The Essex Newsman of November 6th 1943 has the following:

    PRISONER OF WAR
    SHELSHER, Sergt. Ronald (Jim), R.A.F, eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. Shelsher, Highfield Road, Chelmsford, missing on operations in September, now reported a prisoner of war in Germany.


    The Chelmsford Chronicle of August 24th 1945:

    A Good Turn - During his two years in captivity as a prisoner of war in Germany, Flight Sergeant J. Shelsher, R.A.F., of Brentwood, was so impressed by the great work of the Red Cross that he promised when he got his freedom to do something for it. As a result of a whist drive and dance which he organised at the Fyfield Village Hall, 50 10s has been sent to the Red Cross


    The Chelmsford Chronicle of November 16th 1945:

    FYFIELD
    Remembrance Day was observed by the annual parade of the British Legion. Before the service a wreath was laid on the Soldier's Corner by Flight-Sergt. R. L. Shelsher, on behalf of those who served in the 1939-1945 war.


    And finally, the National Probate Calendar on ancestry.co.uk has a Ronald Leslie Shelsher, of Ongar, Essex, died December 28th 1986. His D.o.B. is given as December 6th 1922 on the site.

    Regards

    Simon
    Last edited by wwrsimon; 28th March 2017 at 14:34. Reason: added info and possible name variants

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    Daz,

    The Dulag Luft had a "permanent staff" of POWs. Footprints goes into it from Pg 14 on.

    Dave

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    Daz,

    There are a few Schelsher’s recorded in FREEBMD as being in England&Wales from the early 1800’s. The last one was a:-
    William Richard Schelsher, (Birth Reg Q4 1903 Stepney Vol 1c Page 371).
    Technically, he was old enough to have been your man’s Father!
    Wiki(!) says “In the early 20th century, Stepney was one of the most Jewish neighbourhoods in England . . “.
    If all else fails, you might have to “fly a kite” with one of the Jewish Historical Societies. There are a number, but https://jhse.org seems the most prominent!
    HTH
    Peter Davies
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    Gentlemen

    thank you for all your comments very helpful. I really must get a copy of Footprints. Very interesting.

    thanks again

    Daz

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