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    Would appreciate A-B look-ups for the following Middle East-based aircraft:

    Westland Lysander L4710 (understand it was written off while attempting to land near Cairo, Egypt, 6 July 1942.
    Fairchild 91 HK832
    Grumman Goose HK822

    Thanks in advance

    Robert

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    Hi Rob,

    Grumman Goose HK822.

    9-12-1942
    No.1 Air Ambulance Unit RAAF
    Grumman G-21A Goose HK822
    Crashed in landing on sea, 15m N of Benghazi, during landing practice. All crew rescued, slightly injured, in dinghy the following day.

    Crew:

    AUS406171 F/L (Pilot) John Phillip BARTLE RAAF
    AUS404183 P/O (Pilot) Charles Farquhar McWILLIAM RAAF

    Passengers:

    AUS261901 F/O Stanley O'DONNELL RAAF
    AUS60506 LAC Gerald Cheston ALLEN RAAF
    AUS23676 LAC Geoffrey Thomas RICHARDS RAAF
    AUS27811 LAC John Douglas RICHARDS RAAF
    574938 AC1 W J MILBURN RAF

    COL.
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    Hi Robert,
    having no access to my A-B books at the moment, following link might give you the basic answer:

    http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205127597

    Fairchild 91, HK832 'M' of the Sea Rescue Flight, on an airfield in Egypt. This single-engined amphibian, formerly NC16690 on the US civil register, was purchased second-hand by the British Air Ambulance Corps, a New York-based charity, and delivered to the Middle East where it served with the SRF until sunk in a take-off accident near Benghazi on 17 May 1943.

    HTH

    Pavel
    Czechoslovak Airmen in the RAF 1940-1945
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    And for the Lysander following site https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=16199 (claiming the source as Air Britain RAF Aircraft L1000 - N9999 ) says

    06-JUL-1942
    Westland Lysander Mk I L4710
    Undershot landing in desert & overturned.

    Pavel
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    Thanks, Col and Pavel.

    Col: You are no doubt familiar with the following site: http://www.adf-serials.com.au

    The Goose is referred to here: http://www.adf-serials.com.au/goose.htm

    and there is some interesting period correspondence reproduced here: http://www.adf-messageboard.com.au/i...=0&#entry12454

    I found the reference to the Martin Maryland on the message board of interest as the photos that have come to hand include one of a Maryland taken at the same location as the Goose, Sidi Barrani - am wondering if this is the same aircraft. No serial number visible alas but it does a have, to my eye, an unusual code '12' on the nose on a dark square.

    Any ideas?

    Robert

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    Rob,

    I checked the adf-serials page on the RAAF usage of Goose HK822 to verify some information. I was already aware of the data at the NAA, having accessed it years ago. Oddly, I am not a member of the adf-serials Forum, and rarely frequent it! Why? Time basically, and some personal problems.

    I'm somewhat hamstrung at the moment not being able to access a lot of my material, including my file on No.1 Air Ambulance Unit RAAF.

    Can't help with the Martin Maryland problem. Where did you see the photograph?

    Col.
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    Thanks, Col. A colleague sourced a photo album that included photos taken in the ME, including the Goose, Fairchild 91, Lysander and Maryland. My publisher has agreed to a supplement at the end of my CC Fortress 2nd Edition - there's a connection with the 90 and 220 Sqn Middle East Detachments.

    Robert

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    Robert,

    Thanks,

    Look forward to the 2nd ed. of CC Fortress.

    Col.

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    Hi Robert,

    finally I was able to check my A-B serial books.
    Here you are - just few bits and pieces which were not mentioned in previous posts:

    L4710
    208/Western Desert Communication Unit
    Undershot landing in desert near Cairo and overturned, 6.7.42, destroyed by fire

    HK822
    ex G-AFKJ
    nothing else in comparison with Colin's posts

    HK832
    Sea Rescue Flight
    Ex PP-PAP, hit obstruction in water on take off off Benghazi and sank, 17.5.43

    Good luck with your CC Fortress 2nd Edition

    Pavel
    Czechoslovak Airmen in the RAF 1940-1945
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    Hi Pavel,

    Thanks for those and the good wishes.

    Robert

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