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    Hi all

    Whilst reviewing the various ground targets claimed by 41 Squadron pilots, I have come across a few abbreviations I don't understand. Can anyone help me with the following, please?

    H.D.V.

    A.F.V.

    R.D.F. - "...an R.D.F. was straffed..." [41 Sqdn. ORB]

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    H.D.V. = Horse Drawn Vehicle
    A.F.V. - Armoured Fighting Vehicle

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    Hi Steve,


    AFV = Armoured Fighting Vehicle

    Although I'm not sure if they used that term in the 40's.

    RDF was a radar station. I think it stands for Radio Direction Finding.

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    With respects to Alex, although RDF is normally associated with "Radio Direction Finding", I think that in the context offered here (ground targets under attack) it is probably something else (and perhaps an abbreviation familiar to few outside of No.41 Squadron or its Wing). Unhappily, I cannot offer a term although one might suggest itself from further entries. Could "Railway Something-Something" be inferred from ORB entries ?

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    Thanks Hugh and Alex

    I appreciate you taking the time to reply to my query.

    In regard to RDF, I also originally thought of radar, but rejected it as I felt it didn't fit the context of the quote from the ORB. I think it's likely something else, but just what it is, is not completely clear. Maybe some more clues will appear in time that will help reveal the answer.

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    Hello Steve,

    That what I have found into the net :

    H.D.V. : Heavy duty vehicle
    R.D.F. : Radio Direction Finding
    for R.D.F. only an thought : Rail Disposal Facility

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    René

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    Hi Steve
    The point made by Hugh is valid but don't dismiss RDF as Radar too quickly. The terminology for stations such as Ventnor in the Battle of Britain was "RDF Station" I don't know when RADAR took over to describe the equipment and installations, fixed or mobile.
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    It would seem that the terms "RDF" and "Radio" (latter in the sense of Radar) were replaced in the RAF by the American term "Radar" in last quarter of 1943. I have the RNZAF version of this, but unfortunately not the original dating of the RAF AMO. Perhaps some other forumite has knowledge of this?
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    Hi,

    I have the ORB for 263 Sqn for Jun-Jul 1944 and it mentions radar stations as opposed to RDF stations.

    What's the date for the RDF targets, Steve? Maybe that will help us to pin it down.

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    I would almost guarantee that RDF means radar. It is an abbreviation that is generally accepted to mean Radio Direction Finding and was in use with British forces until replaced by the US term radar in July 1943, although the term can be found in records for some time after that date.

    German costal radar stations were straffed by RAF aircraft not only in the months leading up to the Normandy landings, but for some considerable time. Even without the pilot necesarily knowing what it was he was attacking, they were obviously military installations and could become targets of opportunity on fighter sweeps.

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