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    Default Identity of crashed Hawker Hart

    Looking for the identity of another Middle East subject, a seriously bent Hawker Hart or variant, snapped at Shallufa, Egypt on February 24, 1942. Judging by the oil spill below the engine, it had happened recently. Aircraft is camouflaged but no discernible markings.

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    Robert

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    Hello Robert,
    Have a Gladiator for the 21st, K7965
    But have not found a Hart variant as yet.
    Alex

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    Thanks, Alex.

    Alex Crawford suggests it's a Hart trainer with windshield visible forward of the rear cockpit and an extended exhaust to hide the glare during night flying.

    Cheers,

    Robert

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    extended exhausts would actually mean they were an Audax - right?

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    Jagan:

    Different in this case. Not the long fuselage-side installation of the Audax but a downward vertical leg off the rear end of the exhaust manifold followed by a rearwards turn with a short stub canted outwards under the wing leading edge.

    Robert

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    Where is the picture ?
    Some seem to be able to view it .
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    Thank you for the link Robert,
    Wellington "N" in the background, I would guess a 37 Sqdn a/c ?

    Have now looked in Jeffords book, "RAF Squadrons" and it would more likely be a 221 Sqdn Wellington.
    Could the biplane have been a 221 squadron "runabout a/c" ?

    Book lists only 221 at the Shallufa Satellite base ( LG 251 ) .
    While it has over the years , 6 ,14, 32, 37, 38,39, 40, 46, 70, 76, 82, 90, 104, 162, 213, 220, 221, 252, 351, 454, 458, 620, Squadrons based at Shallufa.
    Of those none seem to have used the Hart in 1942.

    Alex
    Last edited by Alex Smart; 5th June 2017 at 11:47.

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    Thanks for the lookups, Alex. A hack sounds like a likely role for the Hart.

    Can you tell me what Shallufa was considered a satellite of?

    Also. the LG format: LG-251, LG 251, LG.251...? Have seen them all in print.

    Robert

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    Hello Robert,

    There was Shallufa and then also Shallufa Satellite bases.
    From the book map page they were roughly on the west side of the Suez Canal at the Red Sea end.
    Both North of Suez.
    Shallufa first , with Shallufa Satellite further north.
    It is Shallufa Satelite base that is LG 251

    Hope the above makes it more clearer, otherwise the details are in the book on pages 157; 230;231.

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    Thanks, Alex. That's clear. The Landing Grounds sound like a study in their own right.

    Robert

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