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    Default Identity of crashed Hawker Hart

    Looking for the identity of another Middle East subject, a seriously bent Hawker Hart or variant, snapped at Shallufa, Egypt on February 24, 1942. Judging by the oil spill below the engine, it had happened recently. Aircraft is camouflaged but no discernible markings.

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    Hello Robert,
    Have a Gladiator for the 21st, K7965
    But have not found a Hart variant as yet.
    Alex

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    Thanks, Alex.

    Alex Crawford suggests it's a Hart trainer with windshield visible forward of the rear cockpit and an extended exhaust to hide the glare during night flying.

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    Robert

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    extended exhausts would actually mean they were an Audax - right?

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    Jagan:

    Different in this case. Not the long fuselage-side installation of the Audax but a downward vertical leg off the rear end of the exhaust manifold followed by a rearwards turn with a short stub canted outwards under the wing leading edge.

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    Where is the picture ?
    Some seem to be able to view it .
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    Default Re: Identity of crashed Hawker Hart

    The Hart Accident reports are on a reel of microfilm I have from the RAF museum. There is no accident report for this incident in Feb or any other month.
    Hope this helps.
    Richard.

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    Default Re: Identity of crashed Hawker Hart

    Hello,
    I looked at AE number 130.
    Hawker Hart SR6 - 106 - K3028.

    Photos within the article show aircraft wearing their "old" RAF serial numbers and the SR number forward of the fuselage roundel.
    Ie - Hart K3889
    K3889 on the rudder and aft fuselage. With "SR3" forward of the roundel. Unfortunately there is no clear picture that displays the underwing serial number situation.

    Others of the SRAU listed are -

    Hart (T)
    K3877 - SR1- 101.
    K3888 - SR2 - 102.
    Hart
    K3889 - SR3 - 103.
    K2986 - SR4 - 104.
    K3886 - SR5 - 105.
    DH Tiger Moth
    SR7 - 200.
    DH Dragon Rapide
    SR8 - 300.
    Hawker Audax
    SR9 to SR14 - K3108; KK3117; K7534; K7540; K7546; K7548.
    Gloster Gauntlet
    - K5277; K5347; K7825.150 to 152

    Aircraft of the SRAF
    Audax
    K7531, K7534, K7540, K7541, K7545, K7546, K7548, K7549.
    Hardy
    K4053, K4055, K4062, K4065, K4067, K4307, K4308, K4310,
    K4311, K4313, K4314, K4315, K4316, K4318, K4319, K5914,
    K5915, K5916, K5917, K5921, K5922, K5923.

    Alex
    Last edited by Alex Smart; 30th August 2021 at 23:37.

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    Default Re: Identity of crashed Hawker Hart

    In regard to the crashed Hart TT(?).
    The details as expressed in an earlier post about the exhaust pipe shape and windscreen.
    We're those items fitted randomly across all the Hart's or were they fitted in production line only to the Trainer aircraft ?
    Reason for asking is that aircraft in the TT series shown in photos with those fittings seem to be in the later serial number ranges.
    Ie, K3146 - K3158; K3743 - K3763; K4886 - K5052; K5784 - K5897; K6415 - K6550.
    Also it may shorten the search for the crashed a/case identity.
    Alex

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    Default Re: Identity of crashed Hawker Hart

    A clarification: as noted in the original post the photo was taken on April 24, 1942, but the mishap could well have occurred earlier.

    Robert
    Last edited by robstitt; 4th September 2021 at 19:47.

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