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    I would be grateful for any information concerning 3 Squadron RAF, especially details of pilots. My father flew in this squadron.

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    Surname of your father? And the period he served with 3 Sqn?

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    Butcher and I think 1941-1945. I might be wrong but I think he joined the squadron when it was based at Hunsdon and he flew Hurricanes then.

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    Hello,

    Are you referring to 1294873 Donald James BUTCHER (149597) RAFVR?

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    A squadron history (Three's Company: An Illustrated History of No 3 Squadron RAF) was published several years ago; new and second-hand copies can be purchased online from several sources. And I have a few parts of the operations record book (ORB) for 1944-45; let me know if you would like copies. They can also be downloaded from UK Archives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COL BRUGGY View Post
    Hello,

    Are you referring to 1294873 Donald James BUTCHER (149597) RAFVR?

    Col.
    Yes, he was my father but seldom spoke of his service.

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    Hello,

    From Vols.2 & 3 of Shores & Thomas' 2nd Tactical Air Force:

    Vol.2/p.335.
    2-11-1944 No.3 Sqn RAF - Tempest V EJ766:JF-Z.
    Time: 1545
    F/O D J Butcher
    Damaged by Fw 190, Osnabruck Cat B/E.

    Vol.3/p.394.
    1-1-1945 No.3 Sqn RAF - Tempest V EJ719:JF-R,
    Time: 0935
    F/O D J Butcher.
    Claim/s - Bf 109 destroyed (Shared with F/Sgt M J A Rose) 3m N of Helmond.
    Claim/s - 2 Fw 190s destroyed (Shared with W/O D R Worley), 6m E of Gemert.

    Vol.3/p.401.
    17-1-45 No.3 Sqn - Tempest V EJ690.
    Time:1600
    F/O D J Butcher.
    Claim: 1 Bf 109 damaged.

    Vol.3/p.411
    1-2-45 No.3 Sqn - Tempest V NV681.
    Time: 1545.
    F/O D J Butcher.
    Engine failure, forced-landed near Winterswijk - PoW.

    http://verliesregister.studiegroeplu...2.php?PN=NV681

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    Hello Scallywag630, could you please contact me at "john.engelsted at gmail.com" (replace at with @)?

    John Engelsted

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    Not sure about the entry 1/1/45 as I was told Ron Pottinger was flying JF-R on that date when he was shot down and captured. Dad was with him and saw that he landed
    safely. He made a point of telling Ron's parents that their son was safe and Ron thanked him for that the first time they met afterwards (Oct 29 2009)

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    From Vols.2 & 3 of Shores & Thomas' 2nd Tactical Air Force:

    Vol.2/p.335.
    2-11-1944 No.3 Sqn RAF - Tempest V EJ766:JF-Z.
    Time: 1545
    F/O D J Butcher
    Damaged by Fw 190, Osnabruck Cat B/E.

    Vol.3/p.394.
    1-1-1945 No.3 Sqn RAF - Tempest V EJ719:JF-R,
    Time: 0935
    F/O D J Butcher.
    Claim/s - Bf 109 destroyed (Shared with F/Sgt M J A Rose) 3m N of Helmond.
    Claim/s - 2 Fw 190s destroyed (Shared with W/O D R Worley), 6m E of Gemert.



    Vol.3/p.401.
    17-1-45 No.3 Sqn - Tempest V EJ690.
    Time:1600
    F/O D J Butcher.
    Claim: 1 Bf 109 damaged.

    Vol.3/p.411
    1-2-45 No.3 Sqn - Tempest V NV681.
    Time: 1545.
    F/O D J Butcher.
    Engine failure, forced-landed near Winterswijk - PoW.

    http://verliesregister.studiegroeplu...2.php?PN=NV681

    Col.[/QUOTE]

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    Hello,

    I did not have Volume 4 of 2nd Tactical Air Force handy when I made the previous posting. It has this to say:

    Chapter 21 - Addenda, Corrigenda and Errata to 2nd TAF Volumes I-III.

    2nd TAF Volume Two/Three.

    Pages 381-2 and 394, 1 January 1945. Readers will no doubt have noted that Volume Two ended mid-morning on 1 January 1945 when all aircraft involved in the Luftwaffe's Operation 'Bodenplatte' attack on Allied airfields had landed. Volume Three then picked up the story from 1130 hours onwards. Jack Foreman noticed that in the Volume Two listing, at 0935 pilots Flt Sgt M J A Rose, Flg Off D J Butcher and Wt Off D R Worley of 3 Squadron were credited with a number of victory claims. In the listing at the start of Volume Three these claims are listed again at e1500. The latter claims should be deleted - those claims were repeated in error. However, an entry for 3 Squadron at e1500 should remain for Plt Off R W Pottinger, who was shot down and became a PoW at that time.

    2nd Tactical Air Force Vol.4./Shores et al/p.750.

    Not really pertinent to what I posted, but I have included it for completeness.

    Col.

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