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    We recently watched the Kate Humble episode of 'who do you think you are' which was originally broadcast in 2009.
    During the programme we were introduced to her grandfather - test pilot Bill Humble (Hawker)
    But also on the maternal side, her other grandfather - Stanley Carter was shown in a photo as being a Sqn Ldr with an A/G badge ,this I always assumed to be a post war photo so we set about trying to piece together his RAF career.
    My other half found a matching entry in the Air Force List - Air Gunners pages (good old National Library Scotland website) but without his service number.
    However we persevered and think we have matched his commissioning date with the AFL ok.

    Stanley Carter (79230)

    A P/O (acting pilot officer) 18/5/40
    F/O (flying officer)............15/6/41
    Flt Lt (flight lieutenant).....15/6/42


    We did not find any other gazette entries whilst he was still a serving officer (that is not to say there aren't any of course,we sometimes struggle a bit with gazette entries)

    The final entry we found was

    Relinquished commission 25/5/54
    Flight Lt retaining rank of Sqn Ldr.

    He was shot down whilst an air gunner on 83 sqn - Handley Page Hampden AD916, OL-Z. 01 July 1941, Pilot Flight Lieutenant N H Svendsen DFC.
    Stanley Carter was captured and became a POW.

    Purely out of interest we wondered if anybody can fill in any details of his post war RAF career ?

    Also his original commissioning gazette entry to A P/O did not include a previous non commissioned service number,so I also wondered about any previous service or how he came to be a gunner,did they have any directly commissioned Air Gunners in 1940 ? (I would not have thought so but happy to be wrong)

    thanks rgds baz

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    Dear Baz
    It may be worth writing a letter to Kate Humble via the BBC or her Agent.
    Happy hunting
    James

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    Hi James.
    We are not doing serious research,only personal curiosity so I doubt we would like to bother the family about it - we do have another avenue to explore as time permits so one never knows :)

    rgds baz

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    On a more general note/question - if I may quote myself.
    Also his original commissioning gazette entry to A P/O did not include a previous non commissioned service number,so I also wondered about any previous service or how he came to be a gunner,did they have any directly commissioned Air Gunners in 1940 ? (I would not have thought so but happy to be wrong)
    My question about the above quote is that when Stan Carter was given his commission as an APO,he did not appear to have a non commissioned service number (ie he did not appear to have been commissioned from the ranks),this surprised me in that I would have thought that most Gunners were commissioned from already qualified or newly qualified Airman/NCO air gunners .

    From the London Gazette,4 june 1940
    RAFVR General Duties Branch.
    There is a batch of commissions which appear not to have a non commissioned service number - an extract below....



    The undermentioned are granted commissions
    for the duration of hostilities as Acting
    Pilot Officers on probation on the dates
    stated:—

    i8th May 1940.
    John Francis Henry LARDEN (79210).
    George William LEONARD (79211).
    George Jestyn Alfred LEWIS (79212).
    Leslie Thompson MARKS (79213).
    Dudley Stuart MIMS (79214).
    Arthur PATERSON (79215).
    Geoffrey Frank Colman PLEDGER (79216).
    William Aran PONTING (79217).
    Raymond Nicholas RIDLEY (79218).
    George RYLE (79219).
    Julius Victor SILVERSTON (79220).
    Frank Albert TOOMBS (79221).
    Wyndham Frederick Peirson WEBBER
    (79222).
    Herbert Robert James ADAMS (79223).
    Percy BYNG-HALL (79224).
    Edwin Geoffrey Major BOND (79225).
    Jack Matthew BOUSFIELD (79226).
    John Cecil BULL (79227).
    Leonard Manley BLAIN (79228).
    Robert John CANDY (79229).
    Stanley CARTER ,(79230).
    Duncan William CHISHOLM (79231).
    Gerald CLEVELAND (79232).
    Albert Samuel COLLINSON (79233).
    Sebastian Bernard DE MIER (79234).
    Bernard Albert Zadock De BRESSEY
    Last edited by bvs; 26th June 2017 at 10:52.

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