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    I can't say that but my contact says he doubts a wooden blade would still be on L1878 by this time ?

    Looking at Wooden Props

    I found this

    https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/...dellers-guide/

    Is the tip actual wood or compressed wood ?

    Can it be confirmed from a 3 blade prop ?

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    If you can give me an email address, Paul, I’ll send you a photo of it.


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    Rob

    Thanks for photo, my contact reckons its a Rotol prop tip. Defo not L Series Hurricane so not "315" as they had either Watts 2 blade or 3 blade De Havilland Metal - Any others required engine change

    He is going to double check with his expert!

    Paul

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    Ok thanks Paul. If you’re able to I’m happy for you to add the photo to this thread.


    Rob

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    So, i had a very interesting conversation today with a gentleman called Mr Reg Mappledoram who, at the age of 8yrs old actually witnessed this incident whilst standing on the back of a binder. “The Hurricane was seen flying straight but descending with smoke coming from the engine and the propeller turning unusually slowly”. And now with the aid of the book ‘Battle of Britain Combat Archive Volume 7’, Mr Mappledoram has been able to add a lot more details;

    The date was 26th August 1940 and this particular Hurricane was being flown by a Plt Off J P J. Desloges (who later went on to become a Wing Commander before losing his life in a crash on the 8/5/44). He was a French Canadian based at RAF North Weald (No.1st RCAF?!) And was part of ‘yellow section’ that was involved in a dogfight over the Thames Estuary / Essex area between 15.00 & 15.45 hrs. During this dogfight Desloges Hurricane was hit in the glycol tank which seriously reduced the pilots visibility. Having become lost in an ailing aeroplane he force landed near Gt Wilbraham and was climbing out of the cockpit when the farm workers who had seen him descending in difficulties arrived, he was then taken to hospital in their car. The rest of the story involving one of the two guards shooting the other and injuring him is exactly as first told. Mr Precious who had been tending cattle in a nearby field heard the screams of the guard, and having administered first aid to the injured guard (A. C. 2. Albert Pike) then picked him up bodily and having put him in his cattle truck then drove him to hospital. What became of the guilty guard remains unclear, although it seems he did a runner.

    I dont have a copy of this actual book but I’d still like to know the I.d of this particular Hurricane, to help make the story complete. Can any of you guys help please?


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    The Hurricane was P3872, which was repaired and put back into service. The entry in BoBT&N does not specifically mention the site of the crash.

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    Agreed
    Hurricane P3872

    Jean-Paul Joseph Desloges C788

    athabaskang07.files.wordpress.com › rcaf_overseas_vol1_e


    But on August 26th the squadron
    was ordered to North Weald to relieve one of the sorely
    pressed R.A.F. units. The first patrol of the day was unexciting
    and it was a browned off (the layman would probably
    call it “fed up”) lot of pilots who landed, firm in the conviction
    that their lot was to be stooging (uneventful flying over
    a patrol area) rather than fighting. However, their second
    patrol was more productive when they were directed to intercept
    a raiding force of from 25 to 30 Dornier 215s, escorted
    by a force of Messerschmitt fighters, approaching
    from the north-east at 14,000 ft. The bandits were first attacked
    by a Spitfire squadron and the fighter escort drawn
    off. The Dorniers belonged to No. I, and its pilots took full
    advantage of their opportunity.
    McNab led his Hurricanes into the sun in line astern,
    climbed, shifted the formation to sections in echelon to
    starboard and dived on the quarry from 16,000 ft., with all
    guns blazing. McNab destroyed the bomber on the left
    wing of the enemy formation, but was forced to land as his
    own aircraft had been damaged by the Hun’s return fire.
    F/O R. L. Edwards, flying as Blue 2 next McNab, opened
    fire from extremely close range on the next Do. in line and
    shot off its tail assembly. But the enemy rear gunners had
    found their mark on Edwards’s Hurricane and he went
    spinning down out of control, crashed and was killed. Another
    Hurricane, flown by F/O J. P. J. Desloges, was also
    damaged in the combat, but, like McNab, he was able to
    make a safe landing.


    http://www.etherit.co.uk/1940/08/26.htm

    Lone pirate raids continued throughout the day. One placed four HEs on Harwell, killing six, injuring ten and damaging two Wellingtons. Whitleys later landed at Harwell to refuel for a long flight to Torino and these seem to have been the intended target. They are engaged by No. 1 Sqn. RCAF making its first combat fighting with 11 Group. They down two Bf110s and 1 Do17. but lose their Sqn. Ldr N.E. McNab.
    Dave Wadman adds: At approximately 3.25p.m. Hurricanes of the Sqn intercepted a formation of
    7th Staffel of KG2. S/Ldr McNab's Hurricane P3069 was damaged but he was unhurt,
    F/O R.L.Edwards flying P3874 was shot down and killed (the first Canadian pilot
    serving with a Canadian fighter sqn to be KIA in WW2), F/O Desloges' Hurricane P3872
    was severely damaged but repairable - he was unhurt, a fourth Hurricane from the sqn - P3869 was also damaged but the pilot was unhurt.

    Flight Officer J.P.J.Desloges a Canadian from No 1 (RCAF) Squadron was
    shot downn on the 31st of August 1940. He baled out of his stricken
    Hurricane I (N2530) near Gravesend and suffered severe burns. J.P.J.Desloges
    was killed in a flying accident in North Africa on the 8th of May 1944, aged 31.

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    Many thanks both of you!


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    Default Re: WW2 Hurricane Crash Great Wilbraham 1940

    Hi Rob

    And many thanks to you!

    Stay safe
    Brian

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