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    Default Operation 27./28.9.1943

    Hello Gentlemen,

    I'm looking for informations about the crash sites of the following a/c:

    10 Sqn JD272 Wippingen S Papenburg (?)
    61 Sqn ED314
    77 Sqn LW265

    and

    405 Sqn LM345 Drakenburg near Nienburg (?)

    Many thanks for your help!

    Steve
    Last edited by Mosquito; 15th July 2008 at 18:11.

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    Default LM-345 405 Sq

    Judging by the loss of aircraft report, this one made the Netherlands, here is the nav's report.

    NAME. Livesey A.
    SQUADRON. 405
    AIRCRAFT. LM-345 LQ-L
    TYPE OF AIRCRAFT. Lancaster III
    DATE OF LOSS. 27/28.9.43
    TARGET. Brunswick
    HOW MANY OPS. 31
    DUTY. Navigator
    DATE OF INTERROGATION. 13.5.45
    INFORMATION EXTRACTED FROM. POW report
    NARRATIVE OF EVENTS FROM TAKEOFF TO LANDING.


    No weather details remembered. Take off was approximately 19:00 hours. Bombing
    time about 2230 hours. Everything went smoothly until the time of the attack when I estimated
    that we were about 2 or 3 miles south of track and 5 or 6 miles northwest of Hannover. The time
    of the attack was about 21:40, by JU-88 attacking from behind and above. Enemy was not
    sighted until he had got in his burst. The rear gunner returned fire, and claims that his tracer was
    entering the JU-88. Enemy attack was not repeated. We were raked from tail to nose, the rear
    turret being rendered immovable, flying controls damaged, and one starboard engine and the port
    inner set on fire. Our load was jettisoned immediately, and fires were quickly extinguished.
    About 2,000 of height was lost, airspeed greatly reduced, and control became difficult. With
    one starboard motor feathered, we circled round behind Hannover, reached the homeward route,
    and set course, with airspeed of 100 knots indicated, and losing height gradually. We continued
    in this way, with no further incidents, until in the area of Groningen, when the second starboard
    motor failed, and control being extremely difficult, the bale out order was given. Height was
    then about 9,000. I was third to leave aircraft, and I believe that shortly after I left the port inner
    failed and the aircraft went into a turning dive.

    richard

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    Default Operation 27./28.9.1943

    Dear Richard,

    many thanks for the navigator's report. Quite impressive.

    So it was LW265 that crashed at Drakenburg I guess. German report says that it was a Lancaster but this may be wrong.

    Kind regards

    Steve

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    Default Halifax JD272 ZA-F, 10 Sqd, RAF melbourne

    Quote Originally Posted by Mosquito View Post
    Dear Richard,

    many thanks for the navigator's report. Quite impressive.

    So it was LW265 that crashed at Drakenburg I guess. German report says that it was a Lancaster but this may be wrong.

    Kind regards

    Steve
    Hello

    I have huge amounts of info on JD272 ZA-F and the crash, what do you want to know?

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    Hi Carl I'd be very interested to hear what you have on JD272 ZA-F. Especially looking for a photo. Also keen to establish exactly which version of the Halifax it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilMarter View Post
    Hi Carl I'd be very interested to hear what you have on JD272 ZA-F. Especially looking for a photo. Also keen to establish exactly which version of the Halifax it was.
    Hello

    I have limited information regarding the plane no photo :(

    What i have is

    AM Spec: 1808/C4 (350 Ordered)
    English Electric Co LTD, Salmesbury, Preston
    Delivered Between 08/06/43 and 23/06/43

    It was a Halifax GR MK 2 Series 1a

    If you have any information I would love more or if there is anything else you want to know let me know,

    Thanks

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